Speaking in tongues?

[Alithis]

I have. It's satanic.


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as a stand alone statement i can see how it will be quickly misunderstood - are you referring to "tongues " or are you referring to a particular video clip of something some consider to be tongues ?

after all a certain group of so called evangelicals recently realigned themselves with the falsehood of rome . so in that case they have indeed shown themselves to be false and leading many into error.

 

[Alithis]

I was trying to remember a verse that said something close to Satan giving gifts. I couldn't find it but didn't really have time to search. Does it sound familiar to you?

to me it sounds like the verse that even satan can "appear" as an angel of light . - to deceive . but we are in no danger or error by having faith in the lord Jesus and in his promises and believing him that we may receive those same promises for the promises are only missed out on by unbelief .

 

[Hammster]

as a stand alone statement i can see how it will be quickly misunderstood - are you referring to "tongues " or are you referring to a particular video clip of something some consider to be tongues ?

after all a certain group of so called evangelicals recently realigned themselves with the falsehood of rome . so in that case they have indeed shown themselves to be false and leading many into error.

I'm referring to tongues.


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[ImaginaryDay2]

to me it sounds like the verse that even satan can "appear" as an angel of light . - to deceive . but we are in no danger or error by having faith in the lord Jesus and in his promises and believing him that we may receive those same promises for the promises are only missed out on by unbelief .

Just the same way, error can be corrected by careful study of truth. Even if one is a "continuationist", Paul laid out VERY specific guidelines on how and how not to use the gift of "tongues". Pentecostals have largely ignored these and appear "mad" - the very thing the Apostle warned about. But who is Paul that we should listen to him, anyway?

 

[tango]

to me it sounds like the verse that even satan can "appear" as an angel of light . - to deceive . but we are in no danger or error by having faith in the lord Jesus and in his promises and believing him that we may receive those same promises for the promises are only missed out on by unbelief .

2Co 11:13-14 NKJV For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. (14) And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

It takes more than just "having faith" - Scripture calls us to "study to show (ourselves) approved", to "test all things", to "test the spirits" and so on. It's not just a passive sense of "God won't let you be deceived".

 

[Pelikan]

as a stand alone statement i can see how it will be quickly misunderstood - are you referring to "tongues " or are you referring to a particular video clip of something some consider to be tongues ?

after all a certain group of so called evangelicals recently realigned themselves with the falsehood of rome . so in that case they have indeed shown themselves to be false and leading many into error.

What passes today as tongues is definitely Satanic.

It's certainly not of God, so that kinda narrows it down a bit, wouldn't you say?

Modern tongues couldn't be any further removed from Scripture. Then again, the same could be said about the movement that peddles it.

 

[tango]

What passes today as tongues is definitely Satanic.

Your source for this is?

It's certainly not of God, so that kinda narrows it down a bit, wouldn't you say?

Why is it not of God?

Modern tongues couldn't be any further removed from Scripture. Then again, the same could be said about the movement that peddles it.

If you look hard enough you may be able to find a broader brush.

Writing off an entire movement because of the excesses of a few really isn't helpful. You might as well write off the Christian faith because some say we are "a bunch of hypocrites".

 

[Pelikan]

Your source for this is?

The Bible.

Why is it not of God?

Because rambling random syllables isn't what tongues was. Tongues was practical. It served a purpose. If you ask me, it's Satanic and just another weed in the crop to separate people from grounded, Biblical theology.

Modern tongues is nothing but a detraction and distraction.

If you look hard enough you may be able to find a broader brush.

Writing off an entire movement because of the excesses of a few really isn't helpful. You might as well write off the Christian faith because some say we are "a bunch of hypocrites".

Well, we could also talk about other monstrosities such as faith healing if you'd like. Also another superstar in this epidemic concoction of heresy.

 

[tango]

The Bible.

Care to be a little more specific?

Because rambling random syllables isn't what tongues was. Tongues was practical. It served a purpose. If you ask me, it's Satanic and just another weed in the crop to separate people from grounded, Biblical theology.

Modern tongues is nothing but a detraction and distraction.

I'm far from being a fan of the extremes of the hypercharismatic movement or the pentecostal types who claim that if you don't speak in tongues you're not saved. That said to write off an entire gift because some abuse it is excessive, don't you think? Paul urged the Thessalonians "do not quench the spirit" as well as "test all things". It suggests we shouldn't dive into anything new but neither should we write everything off out of hand.

Well, we could also talk about other monstrosities such as faith healing if you'd like. Also another superstar in this epidemic concoction of heresy.

Go for it, only you won't find me in favor of the excesses there either. But once again, let's be careful that we don't reject everything out of hand too quickly. "Test all things" and "test the spirits" suggests there's good as well as bad out there, otherwise there would be no need to test. If it were as simple as "God doesn't do that any more" there would be nothing to test.

 

[psalms 91]

Good post, just because a particular gift is abused does not mean that it should be discarded out of hand, we should test the spirits but for many that is hard for if you dont hear from God or see into the spiritual realm then you are blind and deaf and cannot accurately judge spiritual things

 

[Hammster]

Every person who has tried to defend this "gift" has not done so in a way where it's use is biblical. Y'all just want to continue to spout gibberish and gain approval for doing so.


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[psalms 91]

Every person who has tried to defend this "gift" has not done so in a way where it's use is biblical. Y'all just want to continue to spout gibberish and gain approval for doing so.


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Why bother when I already know your definition and any scripture I use you have already said is known toungues so why bother I dont really like beating my head against a wall that is unmovable

 

[tango]

Every person who has tried to defend this "gift" has not done so in a way where it's use is biblical. Y'all just want to continue to spout gibberish and gain approval for doing so.


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That's not entirely true, is it?

Where did I say I want to "continue to spout gibberish"? I don't speak in tongues at all.

It's interesting to note that Paul didn't tell the Corinthians to "stop spouting gibberish", he told them the correct way to use the gift of tongues. It's sad that some churches lost sight of his guidance but that doesn't invalidate the gift.

 

[Pelikan]

Good post, just because a particular gift is abused does not mean that it should be discarded out of hand, we should test the spirits but for many that is hard for if you dont hear from God or see into the spiritual realm then you are blind and deaf and cannot accurately judge spiritual things

How convenient.

 

[Hammster]

Why bother when I already know your definition and any scripture I use you have already said is known toungues so why bother I dont really like beating my head against a wall that is unmovable

What scripture? That's what I've been asking. And if it's something other than known tongues, make an argument.


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[Hammster]

That's not entirely true, is it?

Where did I say I want to "continue to spout gibberish"? I don't speak in tongues at all.

It's interesting to note that Paul didn't tell the Corinthians to "stop spouting gibberish", he told them the correct way to use the gift of tongues. It's sad that some churches lost sight of his guidance but that doesn't invalidate the gift.

It does invalidate gibberish.


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[psalms 91]

What scripture? That's what I've been asking. And if it's something other than known tongues, make an argument.


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It would be subjective as you know it is all in how you look at the scripture. This is a situation where we would be using the same scripture to prove our opposite points. Same thing happens with pre mid or post trib as they all use pretty much the same scriptures

 

[Hammster]

It would be subjective as you know it is all in how you look at the scripture. This is a situation where we would be using the same scripture to prove our opposite points. Same thing happens with pre mid or post trib as they all use pretty much the same scriptures

At least we would be discussing scripture instead of relying on your experiences and burning bosom.


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[ImaginaryDay2]

Good post, just because a particular gift is abused does not mean that it should be discarded out of hand, we should test the spirits but for many that is hard for if you dont hear from God or see into the spiritual realm then you are blind and deaf and cannot accurately judge spiritual things

That's a pretty big rock ya got there...

 

[tango]

How convenient.

Not trying to be funny here Pelikan but do you have anything useful to say about the subject?

Highlighting part of a word to merely write off another's post as being a con isn't helpful to the discussion. If you want to post Scriptures to make a case for or against that's great, but if all you want to do is say little more than "It's all of the devil, neener neener" don't be surprised if you don't get taken very seriously.

Paul wrote "test all things", not "write it off and make backhanded comments about it".