Speaking in tongues?

[psalms 91]

I pray that you will use discernment to know where it comes from and not shut it down

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

Of course you are not in control, it is the spirit that is. If you were in control then I would agree that it is of man but the very fact you are not in control and you speak you know not what tells me it is the spirit

*smh... OF COURSE you are in control. You can start and stop speech any time you want. You can speak in English or babble speak, or French, or German, or any learned language you want. This whole idea that anyone is "not in control" is against scripture, regardless of anyone's take on this topic.

 

[psalms 91]

*smh... OF COURSE you are in control. You can start and stop speech any time you want. You can speak in English or babble speak, or French, or German, or any learned language you want. This whole idea that anyone is "not in control" is against scripture, regardless of anyone's take on this topic.

sigh

 

[Tigger]

1 Corinthians 14:
…31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.…

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

^^^^ What he said.

sigh

If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God (I Cor. 14).

In other words, control yourself.

 

[Alithis]

^^^^ What he said.



If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God (I Cor. 14).

In other words, control yourself.

also... siiigh ....

 

[Hammster]

I pray that you will use discernment to know where it comes from and not shut it down

I have. It's satanic.


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[Hammster]

^^^^ What he said.



If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God (I Cor. 14).

In other words, control yourself.

I notice that those who speak in gibbe...er...tongues have not used this verse to defend their view. I've also noticed that they haven't used any verses to defend their views.


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[Lamb]

I have. It's satanic.


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I was trying to remember a verse that said something close to Satan giving gifts. I couldn't find it but didn't really have time to search. Does it sound familiar to you?

 

[psalms 91]

I have. It's satanic.


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You had better hope so or else you just called the Holy Spirit a devil

 

[Hammster]

You had better hope so or else you just called the Holy Spirit a devil

It's the Spirit that told me. So you should repent.


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[MoreCoffee]

I have spoken in tongues, and I probably still could. But now I'm leery of the idea. Ever since it's been pointed out to me that self-control is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit--and when I am speaking in tongues I have no idea what I'm going to say next, and I don't feel I'm in control of what I'm saying--I have doubts about the propriety of it. Until that apparent conflict is reconciled in my mind, I'm going to stay away from it.

So my vote in the poll was "not sure."

Both self control and a sober mind are the fruit of the Spirit of God but being led in ways that one does not understand and over which one has (to some degree) lost control is from the spirits that lead people to worship voiceless idols (1 Corinthians 12:1-3 KJV, Ephesians 5:9 KJV, Galatians 5:22-23 KJV)

 

[MoreCoffee]

1 Corinthians 14:
…31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.…

That is the truth; the prophets control what they say, and if one loses self control then it leads to confusion and that is not of God.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I have. It's satanic.


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It is not of God. It may be Satanic. It may be of man.

 

[Hammster]

It is not of God. It may be Satanic. It may be of man. It

But if the Spirit confirms it in me, you cannot argue against my experience.


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[MoreCoffee]

I was trying to remember a verse that said something close to Satan giving gifts. I couldn't find it but didn't really have time to search. Does it sound familiar to you?

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (2 Thessalonians 2:7-10 KJV)

 

[MoreCoffee]

But if the Spirit confirms it in me, you cannot argue against my experience.


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I most certainly can. Your experiences matter to you and they may convince you but they have only minimal value in a debate and no value whatever in a debate where your experience and its claimed source is in question. ...

 

[Hammster]

I most certainly can. Your experiences matter to you and they may convince you but they have only minimal value in a debate and no value whatever in a debate where your experience and its claimed source is in question. ...

But, but, but...


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[MoreCoffee]

But, but, but...


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But, but, but ... I wonder if Joseph Smith used that line? ...

 

[tango]

I was trying to remember a verse that said something close to Satan giving gifts. I couldn't find it but didn't really have time to search. Does it sound familiar to you?

Mat 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

Rev 13:11-13 NKJV Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. (12) And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. (13) He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.


That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others.