What is sin?

[Lamb]

Why does there have to be something specific? When we break the first commandment we break them all. I never knew anyone who could fully keep the first commandment, do you?

 

[visionary]

Why does there have to be something specific? When we break the first commandment we break them all. I never knew anyone who could fully keep the first commandment, do you?

Not knowing anyone else who did, doesn't change the directive God has given us to keep it.

 

[psalms 91]

true

 

[Rens]

Why does there have to be something specific? When we break the first commandment we break them all. I never knew anyone who could fully keep the first commandment, do you?

Some revival preachers came quite close I think, like that guy from the revival in Wales who prayed 18 hours a day for souls.

 

[psalms 91]

Ah but noone does

 

[Alithis]

Why does there have to be something specific? When we break the first commandment we break them all. I never knew anyone who could fully keep the first commandment, do you?

If there is nothing specific then would it not be making false accusation ..
Why make an unspecific accusation against an unspecific individual or group about something unspecific that they have not specificaly done.. ?

Of course itis specific..God does not judge man kind on generalities.. But accordingto what each man has very specifically done and is specifically guilty of .he is Just.

 

[Alithis]

Try saying that lot out loud lol

 

[psalms 91]

Yes ultyimately we will all be judged whether at the judgement seat of Christ or the great White Throne

 

[Lamb]

If there is nothing specific then would it not be making false accusation ..
Why make an unspecific accusation against an unspecific individual or group about something unspecific that they have not specificaly done.. ?

Of course itis specific..God does not judge man kind on generalities.. But accordingto what each man has very specifically done and is specifically guilty of .he is Just.

Do you break the first commandment?

 

[Alithis]

Do you break the first commandment?

It is The reason i do not break the other 9. Is that not the case with you also ?
Can a person break all 10 and the same moment ?..nope ,just so ,at any moment that i may have oppurtunity to break one..i am free instead to choose to keep the first ..,we do not have to try..-when you love some one you dont have to try to love them .you just do. And so in that moment by the power ofthe holy Spirit in us ,we choose to love God 1st and most ..and do not then break any ofthe others. For we cannot break one at the same moment we are abiding by one. Just as we cannot listen to and obey the holy spirit at the same time as we are disobeying and doing a sinful deed. Sin is a deed ,an action of disobedience .
-It is no longer i that live but christ that lives in me .jesus said.."if you love me..you will do what i say..",then,he also said ,if you love me you will be loved of the father. When we love the lord Jesus and do what he says..we are abiding in him and He keeps the first commandment..

You need to realize how much contradiction is being presented. So much crying out going on about how "we arent saved by or under law" and yet it is by law that you try to condemn me ?
But you cant. ,because when a person has died they are no longer under the law any more.

They are made a new creation and are freed from the curse of it.and free to now go and live by the law of love..the law of the spirit of life in christ Jesus. A personliving in this new covenant cannot keep on sinning (no one has ever said they cant sin..but as it is written.."cannot go on doing so")

So it is that a person who carries on repeating a sin they know to be sin shows that they dont know God nor jave they seen him (1john 3.)..why?because if they did,they would love him..and when we love him,we cant keep on sinning as that would not be loving him.
Its all about LOVE.. Not law.

So if we love him.. Then admit what we've been doing (if -we have been stuck in a cycle of repetative same sin we know to be sin) accept by faith the truth that he has already set us free .
prove the sincerity of our love by repenting and turning away from it..and recieve his forgivness.
Then... Walk in that glorious freedom.
There is no more joyous life then a clear conscience with God. He and he alone trough jesus and his blood shed has made it possible ..
Time to believe it and respond accordingly

It is the good news of Jesus,the Christ.he came to set us free from sin..not leave us doing.it as its slaves unto death.

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[Josiah]

It is The reason i do not break the other 9.

"If we claim we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." First John 1:8


We're still waiting for that list of just TEN (only asking for TEN) full names and locations of living persons who always "hit the mark" and never "miss the mark" ("sin") - obeying all 613 PLUS Commandments mandated in Scripture, who are absolutely, divinely, totally PERFECT just as and as much as God is.... HOLY just as and as much as God is..... LOVING just as and as much as Christ was on the Cross..... who have the IDENTICAL life and attitude as Christ..... etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.


For months, you've REFUSED to give even one name of such a sinless person. But here you seem to suggest YOU are the one person on the planet Earth who hits the mark.... and thus you reveal the Bible lies when it says that NO ONE is rightous, no, not even one. The Bible lies when it says "NO ONE is good - only God exclusively." When it says, For ALL fall short (the meaning of the word "sin"). When it says, "If anyone claims to be without sin, he lies and deceives only himself." SAINT Paul noted that he is the "CHIEF of sinners" but you however seem to be the Sinless One (perhaps the only one other than Jesus .... indeed, the only mere mortal EVER). Wow. It's YOU! I never would have guessed.

What is the Law?

The Law is the will of God - flowing from His absolute perfection and justice. It is, in essence, that we be as He is - not in terms of essence but character.

Psalm 51:5 "I was sinful at birth"

Genesis 8:21, "Every inclination of man's heart is evil from childhood."

Romans 5:12, "Sin entered the world through one man's sin, and death through sin, and therefore death came to all men for all have sinned."

First John 3:4, "Sin is lawlessness"

Romans 3:12, "There is no one who does good, not even one."

Mark 10:18, "There is none who is good but God exclusively."

First John 1:10, "If we claim we have no sin, we make God a liar and His word is not in us."



What does the Law mandate?

Essentially, that our character be identical to His.


Matthew 5:48, "You must be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."

1 Peter 1:16, "You must be holy even as God in heaven is holy."

John 15:12, "Love all people just as I (Jesus) first loved you."

Ephesians 4:32, "forgiving one another, just as God in Christ first forgave you."

First John 2:6, "Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did."

Philippians 2:5, "You must have the same attitude that Christ did."


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- Josiah



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[TurtleHare]

"If we claim we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." First John 1:8


We're still waiting for that list of just TEN (only asking for TEN) full names and locations of living persons who always "hit the mark" and never "miss the mark" ("sin") - obeying all 613 PLUS Commandments mandated in Scripture, who are absolutely, divinely, totally PERFECT just as and as much as God is.... HOLY just as and as much as God is..... LOVING just as and as much as Christ was on the Cross..... who have the IDENTICAL life and attitude as Christ..... etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.


For months, you've REFUSED to give even one name of such a sinless person. But here you seem to suggest YOU are the one person on the planet Earth who hits the mark.... and thus you reveal the Bible lies when it says that NO ONE is rightous, no, not even one. The Bible lies when it says "NO ONE is good - only God exclusively." When it says, For ALL fall short (the meaning of the word "sin"). When it says, "If anyone claims to be without sin, he lies and deceives only himself." SAINT Paul noted that he is the "CHIEF of sinners" but you however seem to be the Sinless One (perhaps the only one other than Jesus .... indeed, the only mere mortal EVER). Wow. It's YOU! I never would have guessed.









- Josiah



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If we say we have no sin...that's not past tense now is it, it's on going and current and shows us that we all still sin even those who say they have no sin ,which we've seen often on Christianity Haven. I've never come across such a stubborn person in my life who insists he has no sin!

 

[Lamb]

It is The reason i do not break the other 9. Is that not the case with you also ?
Can a person break all 10 and the same moment ?..nope ,just so ,at any moment that i may have oppurtunity to break one..i am free instead to choose to keep the first ..,we do not have to try..-when you love some one you dont have to try to love them .you just do. And so in that moment by the power ofthe holy Spirit in us ,we choose to love God 1st and most ..and do not then break any ofthe others. For we cannot break one at the same moment we are abiding by one. Just as we cannot listen to and obey the holy spirit at the same time as we are disobeying and doing a sinful deed. Sin is a deed ,an action of disobedience .
-It is no longer i that live but christ that lives in me .jesus said.."if you love me..you will do what i say..",then,he also said ,if you love me you will be loved of the father. When we love the lord Jesus and do what he says..we are abiding in him and He keeps the first commandment..

You need to realize how much contradiction is being presented. So much crying out going on about how "we arent saved by or under law" and yet it is by law that you try to condemn me ?
But you cant. ,because when a person has died they are no longer under the law any more.

They are made a new creation and are freed from the curse of it.and free to now go and live by the law of love..the law of the spirit of life in christ Jesus. A personliving in this new covenant cannot keep on sinning (no one has ever said they cant sin..but as it is written.."cannot go on doing so")

So it is that a person who carries on repeating a sin they know to be sin shows that they dont know God nor jave they seen him (1john 3.)..why?because if they did,they would love him..and when we love him,we cant keep on sinning as that would not be loving him.
Its all about LOVE.. Not law.

So if we love him.. Then admit what we've been doing (if -we have been stuck in a cycle of repetative same sin we know to be sin) accept by faith the truth that he has already set us free .
prove the sincerity of our love by repenting and turning away from it..and recieve his forgivness.
Then... Walk in that glorious freedom.
There is no more joyous life then a clear conscience with God. He and he alone trough jesus and his blood shed has made it possible ..
Time to believe it and respond accordingly

It is the good news of Jesus,the Christ.he came to set us free from sin..not leave us doing.it as its slaves unto death.

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What is the direct answer to my question please? Was that a yes or no so as I don't get accused later on falsely for trying to guess.

 

[psalms 91]

Break one you break them all according to the Word

 

[Rens]

nm

 

[psalms 91]

Isnt it good that we are covered by the blood and have an advocate and we can ask forgiveness all the time as many times as need be Messy

 

[Josiah]

Isnt it good that we are covered by the blood and have an advocate and we can ask forgiveness all the time as many times as need be Messy

AMEN! Because we are NOT obedient, NOT sinless, NOT perfect.... we are SINNERS who deserve hell and eternal punishment ! But we have the SAVIOR (not just a helper or possibility maker or PART Savior) in whom we have mercy and the FORGIVENESS of sin.


Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide! Soli DEO Gloria!!!!!


Pax CHRISTI



http://www.christianityhaven.com/showthread.php?1900-LAW-and-GOSPEL



- Josiah

 

[Rens]

Isnt it good that we are covered by the blood and have an advocate and we can ask forgiveness all the time as many times as need be Messy

I once got a personal Word from a man with prophetic gifts: I am not sensitive to lies and accusations about my beloved.

 

[Rens]

AMEN! Because we are NOT obedient, NOT sinless, NOT perfect.... we are SINNERS who deserve hell and eternal punishment ! But we have the SAVIOR (not just a helper or possibility maker or PART Savior) in whom we have mercy and the FORGIVENESS of sin.


Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide! Soli DEO Gloria!!!!!


Pax CHRISTI



http://www.christianityhaven.com/showthread.php?1900-LAW-and-GOSPEL


- Josiah

We're saints, but when I confess that I'm a saint and holy LOL that's just Word of Faith talk, just like a preacher here who had a cold, snot blubbering all over the place. How are you doing? Great! I'm healed! lol
My ex always said when we were married: my wife is a perfect housekeeper.
Then he'd say: I'm speaking it into existance.

 

[psalms 91]

We're saints, but when I confess that I'm a saint and holy LOL that's just Word of Faith talk, just like a preacher here who had a cold, snot blubbering all over the place. How are you doing? Great! I'm healed! lol
My ex always said when we were married: my wife is a perfect housekeeper.
Then he'd say: I'm speaking it into existance.

lol but we are saints because of our acceptance of Christ and we are made holy by Hiis blood and sacrifice. You are a saint and holy because the Word says so. Messy you are made in Gods image and have His spirit within you