Name those sins Christ didn't die for

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Our believing doesn't give us salvation. We believe because we receive faith in order to believe. Faith that grasps onto the Savior I'll add.

Okay then, does that mean people are saved apart from believing [believing specific things about Jesus I presume] or are you saying "God saves but the one being saved needs faith in order to be saved"? - bearing in mind that in Greek "πιστεύω" is the word for having faith and for believing without the subtle distinctions that are made by many English language speakers when they use the words faith and believe.
 

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Okay then, does that mean people are saved apart from believing [believing specific things about Jesus I presume] or are you saying "God saves but the one being saved needs faith in order to be saved"? - bearing in mind that in Greek "πιστεύω" is the word for having faith and for believing without the subtle distinctions that are made by many English language speakers when they use the words faith and believe.

We are saved and we believe. Believing does not make us saved, it means that we acknowledge and trust what God has done for us. He is the one who saves. We can't turn "believing" into a work that we do. It happens because we have faith that is given as a gift. We aren't saved because we "believe", we are saved because God died for us and our sins are forgiven.
 

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We are saved and we believe. Believing does not make us saved, it means that we acknowledge and trust what God has done for us. He is the one who saves. We can't turn "believing" into a work that we do. It happens because we have faith that is given as a gift. We aren't saved because we "believe", we are saved because God died for us and our sins are forgiven.

Can any be saved without acknowledging and trusting what God has done for them?
 

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Coffee,

IMO, just one fundamental "problem" with the RC Denomination is this unwillingness to embrace mystery.... it still uses the word a lot but has entirely abandoned the entire concept in his enormous egoism. I suspect what our friend Lamm is conveying to you is that Jesus is the Savior. I know (boy, do I) that this is, sadly, a very hard difficult concept for most Catholics whom seem INSISTENT on messing that up, undermining, even destroying that INSISTING that the one who REALLY effectively brings about salvation is self (although SOME repeat the Islamic and Hindu point that it's totally empowered by the divine - but still OUR doing).

In the words of my Greek Orthodox friend, "the Roman Church simply will not shut up but INSISTS on messing things up with all it's foolish theories and philosophies." Protestants would insist there are MYSTERIES here - we haven't been clearly told every aspect, every detail of exactly HOW Jesus saves an individual. But just because God - in His infinite and holy wisdom - chose to not detail all this does NOT give one denomination some authority to invent possible "answers" and then dogmatize it and divide the church over it and condemn others to hell who don't docilicly submit and shallow it whole. It's okay to ask questions...... it's just not okay to substitute YOUR "answers" to YOUR questions to what God has said.

Yes..... the Protestant view is that Jesus saves, that Jesus is the Savior. That means Jesus is the Savior. It means we are not. It's really not rocket science, there's just no reason, IMO, for this to SO very, very, very much trouble and confuse and disturb Catholics (well... there's that Jupiter size ego). The Protestant view in Justification (narrow) is Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide (you know, John 3:16; you know what Luther was excommunicated for affirming). This is so very, very repulsive and offensive to Catholics because it means they are not the Savior. They HATE the grace ALONE part because it excludes their own efforts to save self and means they stop admiring themselves in a pool of clear water. They HATE the Jesus ALONE part because then they can't boast about SELF being as least partly the Savior. Christianity requires a deep humility..... and this is just impossible in the egotistic milieu of Catholic theology. But yes - I admit - the Justification theology leaves some mysteries. We are told to be 'stewards of the MYSTERIES' of God, we are never told to just docilicly submit to whatever singular, individual denomination insists that it itself knows more than God and we are to just swallow whole whatever "answers" it itself eventually invents to displace the mystery cuz it appointed it itself individually to do that. I don't KNOW, exactly, how all this cranks out: grace.... Cross...... faith. I don't need to know. I'm not commanded to know. I'm commanded to trust, to believe, to be a good steward of the MYSTERIES. Sometimes, my friend, the wisest thing one can do is shut up. Something the RC Denomination forgot, many centuries ago.

Justification (narrow) happens where Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide applies. Beyond that..... well...... I know how much this really angers Catholics...... but there needs to be faith, trust, reliance and being stewards of the MYSTERIES of God. Remember: in terms of justification (narrow) there are only two places where you can look: The mirror or the Cross. IMO, it's good to get your eyes off you and place them on the Savior. But then that's one of the very fundamental things that separates Catholics from others.


I know you and I have discussed this many times..... the divide seems enormous.



Pax Christi



- Josiah





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Can any be saved without acknowledging and trusting what God has done for them?

John the Baptist leapt in his mother's womb when Mary (pregnant with Jesus) came near. Obviously, God can handle it out just fine in how He gives faith :)
 

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Yeshua didn't die for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That sin is without salvation.
 

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Yeshua didn't die for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That sin is without salvation.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit denies the Holy Spirit but also Savior and denies the forgiveness won at the cross. Rejection is what damns man.
 

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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit denies the Holy Spirit but also Savior and denies the forgiveness won at the cross. Rejection is what damns man.

Persistent rejection in the full knowledge of what one is rejecting will separate a person from God.
 

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Can't save that which has cut off the life line.
 

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I wonder what an earnest seeker would make of it all.


In Post #161 on Page 17 Lämmchen extracted a couple of verses from a broader proclamation made by Jesus. The extracted verses were offered in the context of people's futures being based on their accepting or rejecting forgiveness.

That proclamation of Jesus was: Matthew 25:31-46 (compressed for space):
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:.
(... because they fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited the sick and imprisoned, etc.)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
(... because they didn't feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned, etc.)

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Note: No faith is mentioned. Nor is acceptance or rejection of forgiveness. Nor is belief. Baptism is absent. No mention is made of the “Lords Supper”/”Holy Communion”/”Eucharist”/”Mass”/Etc.

Works is the only specification – the only qualification – specific works.

Now, not only have the six specific, sensible and important questions raised about those direct and unequivocal words of Jesus in Post #174 on Page 18, been assiduously avoided, but a number of deflective statements have been issued instead.

For instance, Lämmchen has offered in various posts:
Is it our job to focus on works?
(I guess only if Jesus Himself focussed on them – Oh, He did – Didn’t He?)
Pedrito, I would be willing to discuss with you if you ask one question at a time and ask it as clearly as you can. ... I prefer to stick to the topic here.
(Yet Lämmchen drew our attention to that passage in the first place (by quoting verses from it out of context). And she has not honoured my later request that she simply answer one question at a time – one per post – if she found handling more than one at a time confusing. See post #203 on Page 21)
“[[with reference to works]] For salvation? No they don't. God said so.
Yet what did Jesus say in the passage above?
Feeding the hungry and helping he poor and widows will not get you to heaven, bill….
Once again, what did Jesus say in the passage above?

I am not picking on Lämmchen in particular. Lämmchen is not alone. Others have also chosen to avoid the questions, even if not so pointedly. For instance Cassia in Post #219 on Page 22. (I repeated the request for answers in Post #182 on Page 19.)

All I have requested is direct and scriptural answers to the six questions I posed in Post #174 on Page 18.

To make it easy for people, I even answered the first question myself in Post #203 on Page 21.

I now request that Readers be honest enough to either answer the remaining questions as requested, or simply admit that Jesus' proclamation does not fit into their statement of beliefs (whatever that statement is called and whatever form it takes). Is that really too much to ask?


Choosing to ignoring Jesus' words, won't make them go away in God's eyes. Will it?
 

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Yeshua didn't die for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That sin is without salvation.

Yes and falling away whatever that is because backsliders can come back, but there is a point that it's impossible.

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
 

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Exactly what is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit"? People appear to have differing opinions about what it is.
 

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Exactly what is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit"? People appear to have differing opinions about what it is.

What the pharisees said willingly. I heard ignorant people say something was from the devil when it was the Holy Spirit, don't think that's the same. The pharisees weren't sorry for it at all.
Sin against the Spirit will not be forgiven, Ananias also sinned against the Spirit.
 

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Scriptures state that works don't contribute to salvation and I'm not sure why you need to discuss this in a thread with the title of Name those sins Christ didn't die for.


I wonder what an earnest seeker would make of it all.


In Post #161 on Page 17 Lämmchen extracted a couple of verses from a broader proclamation made by Jesus. The extracted verses were offered in the context of people's futures being based on their accepting or rejecting forgiveness.

That proclamation of Jesus was: Matthew 25:31-46 (compressed for space):

(... because they fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited the sick and imprisoned, etc.)


(... because they didn't feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned, etc.)


Note: No faith is mentioned. Nor is acceptance or rejection of forgiveness. Nor is belief. Baptism is absent. No mention is made of the “Lords Supper”/”Holy Communion”/”Eucharist”/”Mass”/Etc.

Works is the only specification – the only qualification – specific works.

Now, not only have the six specific, sensible and important questions raised about those direct and unequivocal words of Jesus in Post #174 on Page 18, been assiduously avoided, but a number of deflective statements have been issued instead.

For instance, Lämmchen has offered in various posts:
Is it our job to focus on works?
(I guess only if Jesus Himself focussed on them – Oh, He did – Didn’t He?)
Pedrito, I would be willing to discuss with you if you ask one question at a time and ask it as clearly as you can. ... I prefer to stick to the topic here.
(Yet Lämmchen drew our attention to that passage in the first place (by quoting verses from it out of context). And she has not honoured my later request that she simply answer one question at a time – one per post – if she found handling more than one at a time confusing. See post #203 on Page 21)
“[[with reference to works]] For salvation? No they don't. God said so.
Yet what did Jesus say in the passage above?
Feeding the hungry and helping he poor and widows will not get you to heaven, bill….
Once again, what did Jesus say in the passage above?

I am not picking on Lämmchen in particular. Lämmchen is not alone. Others have also chosen to avoid the questions, even if not so pointedly. For instance Cassia in Post #219 on Page 22. (I repeated the request for answers in Post #182 on Page 19.)

All I have requested is direct and scriptural answers to the six questions I posed in Post #174 on Page 18.

To make it easy for people, I even answered the first question myself in Post #203 on Page 21.

I now request that Readers be honest enough to either answer the remaining questions as requested, or simply admit that Jesus' proclamation does not fit into their statement of beliefs (whatever that statement is called and whatever form it takes). Is that really too much to ask?


Choosing to ignoring Jesus' words, won't make them go away in God's eyes. Will it?
 

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Scriptures state that works don't contribute to salvation and I'm not sure why you need to discuss this in a thread with the title of Name those sins Christ didn't die for.

Saint James says that one is Justified by works and not by faith alone.
 

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[MENTION=11]Lämmchen[/MENTION], do you think that the Lord Jesus died for the unpardonable sin?
 

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I wonder what an earnest seeker would make of it all.


In Post #161 on Page 17 Lämmchen extracted a couple of verses from a broader proclamation made by Jesus. The extracted verses were offered in the context of people's futures being based on their accepting or rejecting forgiveness.

That proclamation of Jesus was: Matthew 25:31-46 (compressed for space):

(... because they fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited the sick and imprisoned, etc.)


(... because they didn't feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned, etc.)


Note: No faith is mentioned. Nor is acceptance or rejection of forgiveness. Nor is belief. Baptism is absent. No mention is made of the “Lords Supper”/”Holy Communion”/”Eucharist”/”Mass”/Etc.

Works is the only specification – the only qualification – specific works.

Now, not only have the six specific, sensible and important questions raised about those direct and unequivocal words of Jesus in Post #174 on Page 18, been assiduously avoided, but a number of deflective statements have been issued instead.

For instance, Lämmchen has offered in various posts:
Is it our job to focus on works?
(I guess only if Jesus Himself focussed on them – Oh, He did – Didn’t He?)
Pedrito, I would be willing to discuss with you if you ask one question at a time and ask it as clearly as you can. ... I prefer to stick to the topic here.
(Yet Lämmchen drew our attention to that passage in the first place (by quoting verses from it out of context). And she has not honoured my later request that she simply answer one question at a time – one per post – if she found handling more than one at a time confusing. See post #203 on Page 21)
“[[with reference to works]] For salvation? No they don't. God said so.
Yet what did Jesus say in the passage above?
Feeding the hungry and helping he poor and widows will not get you to heaven, bill….
Once again, what did Jesus say in the passage above?

I am not picking on Lämmchen in particular. Lämmchen is not alone. Others have also chosen to avoid the questions, even if not so pointedly. For instance Cassia in Post #219 on Page 22. (I repeated the request for answers in Post #182 on Page 19.)

All I have requested is direct and scriptural answers to the six questions I posed in Post #174 on Page 18.

To make it easy for people, I even answered the first question myself in Post #203 on Page 21.

I now request that Readers be honest enough to either answer the remaining questions as requested, or simply admit that Jesus' proclamation does not fit into their statement of beliefs (whatever that statement is called and whatever form it takes). Is that really too much to ask?


Choosing to ignoring Jesus' words, won't make them go away in God's eyes. Will it?



Answer this: WHO is the SAVIOR?


IF you answer "Jesus" then Jesus is the Savior. Not you - not a bit, not at all, not now, not ever, not in any way or shape or form or manner. Salvation is entirely, wholly wrapped up in Jesus. It's entirely HIS work. HIS heart. HIS love. HIS mercy. HIS gift. HIS blessing. His life, His death, His resurrection. His Cross, His blood, His sacrifice. His righteousness, His obedience, His holiness. Not you. Not yours. Not at all, not a bit. It's the result of CHRIST'S works. You may have some other role in some other matter, but not this. The "job" of Savior belongs to Jesus. Not you.


IF you answer "me" then you are the Savior. Not Jesus. Not a bit, not at all. Not now, not ever. Not in any way, shape or form or manner. Salvation is all wrapped up in YOU. It's about YOU. YOUR works. YOUR will. YOUR love. YOUR efforts. YOUR merits. YOUR obedience. YOUR righteousness. YOUR holiness. YOUR sacrifice. Not Jesus. Not Jesus'. It's the result of MY works. Jesus may have some other role in some other matter (possibility maker, helper, etc.), just not this one. The Savior is you.

There are only two places you can look: To the Cross or to the mirror. You are either trusting Jesus as the Savior or yourself. If your "answer" hinges on the words "me" or "I" then you are looking in the mirror.

Which is it? If you answer "Jesus" then obviously, undeniably, unavoidedly, the "works" that save (in the sense of narrow justification) MUST be those of Jesus and not us. If you answer "me" then obviously, undeniably, unavoidedly, the "works" that save are mandated to be your own. If you answer the question in the Christian way, any confusion about this disappears. If the Christian answer is given, one does not need to demote Jesus to the opinion of non-Christians about him (a good teacher, a good model, solid inspiration) and need not take the Muslim/modern Jewish/Bhakti Hindu view that we save ourselves but only via the help that the divine offers - making Jesus a helper but not the Savior.




Back to the issue at hand.....



Pax Soli Christi



- Josiah





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The LAW:

What is the Law?

The Law is the will of God - flowing from His absolute perfection and justice. It is, in essence, that we be as He is to the same extent He is - not in terms of essence but character.



Psalm 51:5 "I was sinful at birth"

Genesis 8:21, "Every inclination of man's heart is evil from childhood."

Romans 5:12, "Sin entered the world through one man's sin, and death through sin, and therefore death came to all men for all have sinned."

First John 3:4, "Sin is lawlessness"

Romans 3:12, "There is no one who does good, not even one."

Mark 10:18, "There is none who is good but God exclusively."

First John 1:10, "If we claim we have no sin, we make God a liar and His word is not in us."

There are at least 613 laws specifically written just in the Old Testament. We think often of the Ten Commandments but actually there are many, many more just in the OT - and still more in the NT.




What does the Law mandate?

Essentially, that our character be identical to His.



Matthew 5:48, "You must be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."

1 Peter 1:16, "You must be holy even as God in heaven is holy."

John 15:12, "Love all people just as I (Jesus) first loved you."

Ephesians 4:32, "forgiving one another, just as God in Christ first forgave you."

First John 2:6, "Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did."

Philippians 2:5, "You must have the same attitude that Christ did."



The word "sin" literally means "to miss the mark." In ancient Greece, if an archer missed the target, the therefore "sinned" because he missed the mark, missed the target. The Bible says "ALL fall short." IF you have absolutely, perfectly, divinely, 24/7 "hit" all the targets above, then you are obedient and free of sin. Otherwise...... Well, the Bible would be correct and not lying when it says that "NO ONE is righteous, no, not even one." "For ALL fall short." "NO ONE is good." "If you claim to have no sin (you hit the mark), then you lie and call God a liar."


What is the function of the Law?

1. Civil - Our relationships in this fallen world. This was not given until around 1400 BC when the first Law was given to Moses on Mount Sinai, with a purpose of GUIDING peoples' relationships. This is very much like our own national laws - they govern relationships. Civil law does not get us into heaven, it helps us get along with others, it helps our society work better.... if everyone kept the law, this would be a nicer place in which to live and die (and eventually go to hell). This applies just as much to non-Christians as to Christians - it applies to all.

The Law cannot save - and in this first use, it's not remotely its intention. Now.... true..... IF we kept all the law, we'd go to heaven (because we would not NEED God or Christ or mercy or forgiveness or salvation or justification or the Cross or the Blood - we'd not need the Gospel - because we'd essentially be God: divinely perfect, divinely holy, divinely loving..... totally, absolutely..... 100%....... 24/7...... but then in that case, we'd not need the civil law because we'd be perfect - in nature, in being, in attitude, in thought, in word, in deed.

We can NEVER achieve the Law (and we don't). Like Paul, we must confess that we are "CHIEF OF SINNERS" and that we are not - not - perfect as God demands.... but we CAN press on toward that. Why? Because Jesus was a joke and Christianity is wrong - we gotta save ourselves? WE save SELF via the Law - by being absolutely 100% perfect just as God is perfect? Nope. We press on toward that because our life and our world would be a whole lot better off. And because it pleases God whom we love.

2. Theological - Our relationship to God. This is to drive us to our knees, to drive us to despair, to accuse us, to drive us to God's MERCY, God's HEART, God's FORGIVENESS..... to reveal the need for a Savior, a Cross. We CANNOT and ARE NOT what God intends and commands. That NO ONE is righteous..... NO ONE is good..... every other religion on the planet is fundamentally wrong because we cannot clean up our act and become what God mandates: absolutely perfect, absolutely holy, absolutely loving.... if anyone CLAIMS to be without sin (to always hit the mark), well.... to be blunt..... they LIE and DECEIVE themselves (but no one else - least of all God!). We are SINNERS! We MISS THE MARK! We are FALLEN! We need SALVATION, MERCY, JUSTIFICATION... IF we look to the LAW as the tool of salvation, ALL that happens is that we get slapped down - completely, totally, every time. (Note: THIS is why people want to water down the law SO MUCH as to make it unrecognizable, insulting God and the Law - all to make it so that we can boast "but I keep the Law - I don't need no God, no Christ, no Cross, no Blood, no mercy - I got ME!!!" All as an enemy of Christ, a destroyer of the Gospel, all in an attempt to substitute the theology of Judaism, Islam and Bhakti Hinduism in place of Christianity - to promote THEIR soteriology which is "Self saves self although because of the TIME and HELP which God provides")

The theological use is to ask ourselves, "Am I all that God commands?" The only reasonable answer is: "NO!" And thus to flee to the mercy seat of God, the heart of God..... He who says "Yes" the Bible specifically says is a "fool" and is a "liar"

BOTH of these functions continue after justification..... we are STILL called to be absolutely, divinely PERFECT, we are still called to live civilly in society; indeed Christians have unique commands: to love EXACTLY as Christ did, to LIVE exactly as Christ did, to make disciples of all 7.3 billion people, etc. The Law doesn't disappear or get watered down to nothing (as some Christians insist) when we are justified... but it also has nothing to do with our justification just because we are justified.





The GOSPEL


What is the Gospel?

It is the heart of God, the mercy of God, what God has done FOR us, the gifts from God, the promises of God - all in view of CHRIST alone: the Cross, the Blood, the Empty Tomb.



Galatians 2:21, "If justification were through the Law then Christ died for no purpose."

Philippians 3:9, "Not because of our works, lest anyone can boast."

Romans 3:20, "No human being will be justified in God's sight by works of the Law."

First John 4:10, "Not that we love God but rather that He loves us."

First John 4:8, "God is love."

John 3:16, "For God so (unconditionally) love the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but has everlasting life."

Romans 5:8, "God shows His love for us in that while we were enemies of God, Christ died for us."

First John 2:2, "Christ is the atoning sacrifice for our sins."

Titus 3:5, "God saves us not because of our deeds of righteousness but rather in view of His own mercy."

Romans 6:23, "The free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus."

Ephesians 2:8, "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing but rather it is the free gift of God."

John 3:36, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life."



This Gospel also applies to our lives as Christians....

Hebrews 13:5, "I will never leave you or forsake you."

First John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, God is faithful to His promise and will forgive our sins."

.... and so VERY much more.... all entirely because of the heart of God, the unconditional love of God, the mercy of God.... in view of the Lamb, the Blood, the Cross, the Christ, the Savior.


The Law does not negate or cancel or diminish the Gospel.... nor does the Gospel negate, cancel or diminish the Law... both are real, both are true, both stand in ALL their force and truth... and they can only accomplish their task if we allow them to stand FULLY - not watering them down, not confusing them, not entangling them, not misapplying them. A Christian (one who is justified, narrow - by Christ ALONE, by the SAVIOR, via the Cross, because of the Gospel!) is still called to absolute, total, divine perfection, holiness, obedience, love... still called to always, perfectly HIT THE MARK, right on, every time, 24/7, as much as God does, in our nature, our being, our attitude, our thoughts, our words, our deeds: both for civil reasons AND so that we realize we fail and need Gods' mercy. We strive forward because we love God and because this is the will of God..... but we never fully attain it, we miss the mark, we fall short more often and more greatly than we realize. And so, thanks be to God, the Gospel remains (FULLY, completely, in all its' power and force and beauty): God is merciful, God forgives, because of the Lamb, because of the Cross, because of the Blood, because of His unconditional love, because of His Son, because there is the SAVIOR - Jesus Christ.

Philippians 3:12-14, "Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead." Paul is NOT obedient, hitting the mark perfectly all the time,equal to God.... no, he insists he is the "Chief of sinners!" Paul is not looking to the Law for justification but for his life as one who is justified. And he "presses on" (accepting the call of the Law to PERFECTION) not so that He might be saved.... not so that God will love him.... not so that he will become God's own.... but because he IS loved, IS God's own - this has to do with the life of the justified, not the cause of justification.



Back to the issue at hand....




Pax soli Christi



- Josiah





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[MENTION=11]Lämmchen[/MENTION], do you think that the Lord Jesus died for the unpardonable sin?


It's a Law Gospel thing...as Josiah said :)

I can say with all confidence because of the Gospel that Jesus died for all my sins. Every single one of them. And they are forgiven. I can say that by grace through faith.

I've posted this before but I will state it again.

Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit are those rejecting the forgiveness of sins (the good news that the Gospel gives). It's rejection of the Savior and His work on the cross that damns man. If man does not want the forgiveness of sins, he does not receive them. That is the gist of that verse about blaspheming.
 

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It's a Law Gospel thing...as Josiah said :)

I can say with all confidence because of the Gospel that Jesus died for all my sins. Every single one of them. And they are forgiven. I can say that by grace through faith.

I've posted this before but I will state it again.

Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit are those rejecting the forgiveness of sins (the good news that the Gospel gives). It's rejection of the Savior and His work on the cross that damns man. If man does not want the forgiveness of sins, he does not receive them. That is the gist of that verse about blaspheming.

Yes, I see where you're coming from. All your sins but what of the unforgivable sin committed by somebody else, did Christ die for that sin?
 
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