• Welcome to Christianity Haven, thank you for visiting! If you have not already, we invite you to create an account and join in on the many discussions we have! 

    • Please be aware that when registering you must not register while using a VPN. Any registrations made using a VPN will be rejected.
    • Additionally, registration emails are not being sent out which is an issue that is being worked on. Your registration may go into an approval queue for admin approval. We work to send manual emails to the email on file, so please ensure the email you use is one you can readily access! 

Search results

  1. Andrew

    Does Satan cast out Satan?

    For this statement to make sense we must agree that Catholics are time travelers [emoji106]
  2. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    "Then Judas and his brothers and all the assembly of Israel determined that every year at that season the days of dedication of the altar should be observed with joy and gladness for eight days, beginning with the twenty-fifth day of the month of Chislev" 1 Maccabees 4:59 "And it was at...
  3. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    You quoted 2 different members, im only one member
  4. Andrew

    Does Satan cast out Satan?

    or the whole book could just be a myth created by pre Christian Catholics, unless it mentions something like "Seven Angels who stand before the throne of God" or the casting out of demons.. you know.. something that the NT mentions that the OT doesn't?
  5. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    What are the earliest Hebrew text we have of Scripture that predates the 4th Century AD?
  6. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    The so-called "apocryphal" books claim that they worship the God of Israel, the Bible makes the same claim, so prove to me without using the Bible itself that any Jew accepted any book of the Bible, and you can't just say "because Jews existed" unless I can claim that fact as evidence as well...
  7. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Technically you did not actually audibly hear him say that [emoji23]
  8. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    LXX
  9. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    I assume Maccabees would be rejected among Christians today because in the OT God never sent the Israelites out for battle...
  10. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Because the Jews wrote them?
  11. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Exactly my point, this is also evident in the writings of the ECF of which the majority specifically call them Holy Scripture, Divine Scripture, Sacred Scripture, Word of God, Words of Lord Jesus, Fountains of the Word of God etc.. Even the Jewish Talmud quotes from the Wisdom books! This...
  12. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    "But since we have made mention of heretics as dead, but of ourselves as possessing the Divine Scripture for salvation; and since I fear lest, as Paul wrote to the Corinthians, some few of the simple should be beguiled from their simplicity and purity, by the subtlety of certain men, and should...
  13. Andrew

    Do Mormons even read the New Testament?

  14. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Such extraordinary claims I am making, what will you do if I tediously compile for you every single citation for every quotation of every ante nicene father? Will you double check them?
  15. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Right there in the puddin'
  16. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    And they quote from the so-called "apocrypha" more than the other OT books
  17. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    And most did
  18. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    But many of the ante-nicene fathers used them in the churches and even refer to them as Gods word, and not just on occasion but very fluently, especially from the book of Wisdom.
  19. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    That's nothing more than someone twisting through personal interpretations to have the church fathers disagree with David, a very very low blow with no other support than bias interpreting. What would help us out more is to actually listen to Bercots work/lectures and then make your own judgment
  20. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    I'll have to read this post again later but I just wanted to note real quick that the Samaritans for example only accepted the Torah as divine Scripture, on the farthest side of the spectrum you have the EOC who accept the entire LXX as divine Scripture.. Yet in an earlier post you stated that...
Top Bottom