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  1. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    The LXX didn't contain maps, I believe the protestants put them in the bibles because the Church banned those who were putting star charts and books supposedly written by saints, but kept the ecclesiastical scriptures in alongside canonical scriptures, both classes contained divine Scripture
  2. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Read the title!^^^^^^
  3. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Well brother Nathan has some companions from the early church that must have also believed in flying purple people from Venus and enjoyed a good "connect the dots" activity, for a vast number of them specifically quote from the "Ecclesiastical" books as traditional Holy Scripture. You see...
  4. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Hello! I am NOT even arguing CANON! Read the OP, read the thread title!
  5. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    That's pure hogwash, I have provided recorded testimony from two ECFs that agree as to what "Canon" means and what it is and what "Ecclesiasticals"mean and what they are, and what IS and ISNT considered actual "Apocrypha". I cited before (in this thread or perhaps another) a lengthy track...
  6. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    So the very few who sided with the unbelieving Jews must be correct because why? What makes the majority who accepted the ecclesiasticals so wrong? Seriously the least you could do is state your case instead of just poking at us from the ether
  7. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    So... non Jews added the book of Maccabees? Evidence? Oh that's right you never claimed that non Jews added the book of Maccabees... i'm sorry The LXX does not prove that Jews accepted the Apocrypha because the earliest manuscript we have dates no earlier than the 4th Century?.. I can say the...
  8. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    My point is moot? These books made it passed The Christian Church, this FACT alone is undeniable PROOF that Jews and Christians accepted them from early on BECAUSE THEY HANDED THOSE BOOKS DOWN TO US OBVIOUSLY. There is NO mention at all by any Church Father before Jerome that these books were...
  9. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    "To the Jew first" The first Christians were Jews, they did not take these books out of the churches. THAT IS FACT. Had the book of mormon been floating around the church I highly doubt they would let it slide into the church and ultimately into the Bible. I mean really Patrick!
  10. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    So you want me to show evidence for something that you already believe as fact, your response to my posts is evidence to me that you do not believe the LXX was written in the 4th century AD but earlier. We can both gather that the so called "Apocrypha" came from an LXX that no longer exists yet...
  11. Andrew

    "The Poor and the Poor in Spirit"

    Copy/Pasta from something I found kinda interesting. Thoughts? ---------------------------- At first I was attempting to find an answer to one of the "contradictions" in the Bible. I think I read somewhere that atheists claim that the beattitudes given by Jesus in Matthew are not the same as...
  12. Andrew

    Does Satan cast out Satan?

    Nathan makes it clear that this is concerning the book of Tobit, no switch/bait is evident, not sure why you would charge the op with switch/bait when that's obviously untrue.
  13. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Dear Josiah, Cite sources from a proto-Masoretic/Masoretic/Hebrew Text dated before the 4th Century AD that doesn't contain any "Apocrypha"... I'll wait.
  14. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Oh so I guess the LXX was created in the 4th century AD then [emoji849]
  15. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Wake up already! :)
  16. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Yet it exposes your hypocrisy greatly!
  17. Andrew

    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    And we have no full Hebrew text from that time either.. ??
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