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Do the research yourself. I’m done with you.

You can believe what you want, but you clearly have not lifted the smallest finger to verify your belief. You refuse to download the PDF of the original KJV. You refuse to buy a replica of the original KJV on Amazon. You refuse to visit any museum that has a original KJV on display. You refuse...

Who made the 400-year edition? Uh, can you read? Look at the picture. It says Zondervan did it. And no, Zondervan did not create the calligraphy. It’s a photocopy replica. Do you know what photocopy means? Have you ever used a copy machine before? I mean seriously, are you just joking? Or do...

I already told you. It’s a photocopy of the 1611 KJV. If you wanted a picture of the original 1611 part, then why didn’t you specify? Gotta wait till I get home now. You can also find PDF documents for free online that show the original 1611 KJV. It’s public knowledge. You’re acting like it’s...

The copyright and publisher of the original 1611 King James Bible? Or do you want the names of the people who made this 400-year anniversary edition? I already gave you the links to buy it on Amazon. Why do you need me to do the work for you? Is it because you’re too lazy to do it yourself...

Yea, but you’re not sharing your beliefs about the apocrypha, nor are you sharing any evidence. It’s a two-way street, and you’re pretending that it’s a one-way.

How come you’re afraid to share your beliefs? Stay on topic. Do you believe that the apocrypha belongs in the Bible or don’t you?

Can you prove that Song of Solomon is divine?

Wait, are you saying that the Apocrypha should be included in the Bible? Or that it shouldn’t be? What are you saying?

And you can? Where are you primary sources? Where’s the evidence that the Jews who lived before Christ rejected Maccabees as scripture? All we have is Josephus’ comments. But he was after Christ. The most sensible explanation as to why the early Christian church accepted Maccabees would be that...

You claim the apocrypha doesn’t belong in the Bible. Is your decision pan-Christain, ecumenical, and binding? If church councils of the 300’s have no authority, then who does? You?

But don’t you believe that the Jews who lived before the time of Christ rejected Maccabees as scripture? You believe that don’t you? Do you have evidence from primary sources dated to before the time of Christ that proves the Jews back then rejected Maccabees as scripture? If you’re not...

Wait, though. What are you claiming? Do you claim that the Jews who lived before the time of Christ rejected the books of Maccabees? Do you claim that? Can you provide primary sources for that? What’s your counter-argument?

Who lost it? Maccabees was in everyone’s Bibles, right up to the Protestant Reformation of the 1500’s. Even then Protestants still had it in their Bibles until 1885 when they took out the Apocryphal section. Even when they took it out, Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Coptics, and Ethiopians still...

What are your claims?

You’re not really proving anything. The vast majority of what’s referenced in Hebrews 11 can be found in the Old Testament. When it mentions the tortured men, one would expect that to be included in the Old Testament as well. As for the people sawn in two, perhaps that’s talking about the...

They declared which books belong in the Bible, and these councils included the books that Jerome,Athanasius, Melito, etc. all said were apocryphal. Those guys said these books don’t belong, and the councils said yes they do.

The early church. Not me. I’m not the one who made the decisions in the Councils of Rome, Hippo, and Carthage. The early church made their decision clear with no help from me.

You’re just going to completely ignore the rest of the chapter? I’ve always gotten the impression that this story of men being tortured is coming from a book of the Bible that I should have read about, but for some mysterious reason it has been hidden from me. And I just didn’t know what it...

Those people were siding with the unbelieving Jews. Melito, for example said that he got his list from the Jews. So did Jerome. This only proves the case further that the Jews who lived after Christ took those books out of their Bibles. That’s why they convinced some Christians to reject them...