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So you think the book of Esther is the invention of heretics? The early church councils contradicted Athananius’ false claim and declared Esther divine canonical scripture. Why are you quoting the false beliefs of a church father that the church councils disproved?

What do you make of the quotes Origen provided? What do you think the significance of those verses is, and how does it apply to this conversation?

Yes. Read it.

You already asked that question, and I already answered. You ask me to study, but you have not studied yourself, because if you had, you would have read 1 Maccabees 2:54, which says Mattathias was the descendant of Phinehas, the grandson of Aaron. 1 Maccabees 2:54 “Phinees our father in being...

Exodus says: Now when Moses saw that the people were unrestrained (for Aaron had not restrained them, to their shame among their enemies), then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, “Whoever is on the Lord’s side— come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together...

Oh, they weren’t allowed to go to war with other nations, like…. The Midianites for example? Of the people Phineas killed, one of them was a Midianite woman. [staff edit]

If the Levites were prohibited from killing with the sword, then why was Phineas commended for…killing with the sword? Phineas was Aaron’s grandson.

I’m waiting for you to provide the scripture verse that proves what you just said.

Uhuh? So what? Mattathias and his sons were Levites. You’re not making any sense.

So what about the Hasmoneans? The Hasmoneans were their descendants. Judas Maccabee and his brothers never wore a crown and claimed to be king. Their descendants did later on. What’s your point? What did Judas or Simon do that’s treason? They never claimed to be king.

How are they treasonous? Explain yourself. Yes, Maccabees specifically says they’re Levite priests and descendants of Aaron. What’s treasonous? It doesn’t say Simon Maccabees was their king. He was just their leader, just as Moses was a leader. What’s treason?

Explain what? That there were no prophets in the days of the Maccabees? So what? What of it? Is Nehemiah not scripture because he wasn’t a prophet? You’ve explained nothing.

If you’re not explaining your point, then don’t bother responding. Either explain what you mean or go away.

The Maccabees were of the tribe of Levi, descendants of Aaron. They were not of Judah. Nice try, genius.

How is this information relevant to you? Are you saying that, “It must be prophecy coming from a prophet in order for it to be scripture”? Is that what you’re saying? If so, then I’d like to ask you if Ezra was a prophet. And if you think he was, then I’d like to ask what Ezra said in the...

Here’s more pictures. Doesn’t it make sense that if Daniel prophesies about these events, then we should have the history that fulfills these prophecies included in our Bibles?

Do you agree with their interpretation of Daniel’s prophecy? Do you think Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

You know, honestly, I went for 20 years or so of being a Christian, reading the Bible through from cover to cover multiple times, and never understood the prophecies in Daniel 8 and 11. Then recently, I watched a bunch of documentaries on the life of Alexander the Great. I basically just...

Yup. Every generation. We simply don’t know. Anyone who claims to know will be shown to later on be a false prophet, just like the founders of the Jehovah’s False Witnesses cult.

Oh, who knows? Seems like every generation wants to think they’re the last. There could be 300 more years for all I know.