Visions, dreams, and prophecies a danger or a blessing?

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Sure, anyone can be wrong. But if some claims to be a prophet and their fruit stinks we can steer clear of them. If someone claims the authority of an OT prophet they need to live up to the standards of an OT prophet, which means one false move and they lose their title (and they should be thankful they don't lose their life, but we don't stone people these days regardless of what they have done).

In the NT approach it's clear that we should test prophecies. As to how many test it or how rigorously they test it, that would depend on the impact that following it would have. If following the word would have minimal cost associated with it then there's probably no need to test it too thoroughly, simply because if it were totally made up the impact would be minimal. If it would have major repercussions then it should be tested and tested and tested again. The God who was capable of sending the message through one channel is quite capable of confirming it through another if that's what is required.

We don't have O.T. prophets anymore, so if they think that I don't even bother to listen. In the past I've gotten some accurate Words from people with a prophetic gift.
 

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We don't have O.T. prophets any more, so if they think that I don't even bother to listen. In the past I've gotten some accurate Words from people with a prophetic gift.

Do we have any prophets today?
 

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Yes or else the gifts given to the church would be a lie, as that is one of the gifts given

Who are the prophets prophesying today?
 

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many but you will have top figure that out for yourself since it seems you have a problem with prophecy for today
 

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many but you will have top figure that out for yourself since it seems you have a problem with prophecy for today

Can you name any?

As for myself. I am no prophet. The very thought is anathema.
 

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Can you name any?

As for myself. I am no prophet. The very thought is anathema.

Wigglesworth, Steve Hill, Wilkerson

https://mariomurilloministries.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/preparing-the-church-for-the-coming-storm-6/


An elder in the Pentecostal Church at Moss, Norway, Martin Andersen, heard the following prophecy in 1937, in Moss:

‘When oil comes out of the North Sea and along the Norwegian coast, things will begin to happen, and the return of Jesus is approaching.’

When these words had been proclaimed, people stood up in the congregation and asked the man to sit down and not speak such nonsense. In 1937 it was indeed nonsense to talk about oil being pumped along the Norwegian coast. Today all the world’s big oil companies are pumping oil along the coast of Norway. Norway is the world’s second greatest exporter of oil - after Saudi Arabia.

http://www.inthebeginning.com/articles/norway1968.htm
 

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Do we have any prophets today?
apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors and regular believers with a prophetic gift.
Pastors or evangelists also can get prophecies.
 

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Do you dispute that there are prophets within the body of Christ?
 

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apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors and regular believers with a prophetic gift.
Pastors or evangelists also can get prophecies.

I'd still draw a distinction between a "prophet" and a "person with a prophetic gifting". Personally I don't care much for the title "prophet" because it seems like the kind of thing that achieves little beyond the temptation to pride. If my words are prophetic I may or may not even realise it and even if they are prophetic words with an enormous power it's not as if I can claim any credit for them.

Personally when people are presented as "prophets" I lose interest in them very quickly. The whole process puts the focus on the person and what they have done, as opposed to the God who should be getting the glory. And when people allocate a specific amount of time, or announce when they will be prophesying, that's a good sign to run away. If God isn't speaking to them how can they prophesy?
 

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I think the two witnesses qualify as prophets, but the only reason that they are called two witnesses is because they witness and it happens as they speak... They are prophets of Revelation, the book will be completely open because of them. They give the last warning and hope.
 

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I'd still draw a distinction between a "prophet" and a "person with a prophetic gifting". Personally I don't care much for the title "prophet" because it seems like the kind of thing that achieves little beyond the temptation to pride. If my words are prophetic I may or may not even realise it and even if they are prophetic words with an enormous power it's not as if I can claim any credit for them.

Personally when people are presented as "prophets" I lose interest in them very quickly. The whole process puts the focus on the person and what they have done, as opposed to the God who should be getting the glory. And when people allocate a specific amount of time, or announce when they will be prophesying, that's a good sign to run away. If God isn't speaking to them how can they prophesy?

Name some folk who are gifted as prophets so we can test the claims.
 

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I think the two witnesses qualify as prophets, but the only reason that they are called two witnesses is because they witness and it happens as they speak... They are prophets of Revelation, the book will be completely open because of them. They give the last warning and hope.

These two witnesses are they on earth right now and is their identity known to you? If not then are there any prophets that you think are here on Earth right now?
 

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Name them and then we can test the claims.
Again with the sidestep, do you believe there are prophets in the church today? The fact you are sidestepping gives me my answer and if you dont believe it then you have just went against what the Word says.
 

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Again with the sidestep, do you believe there are prophets in the church today? The fact you are sidestepping gives me my answer and if you dont believe it then you have just went against what the Word says.

No, I do not believe that God sends prophets to lead and teach his people.
 
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