It's abhorrent.

[Arsenios]

Oh, Time has already explained itself by saying that although what they pictured on the cover was not factual, it cast light in some unexplained way upon a situation in the country that was in need of being publicized etc. etc. etc.

Really???

There is nothing like self-justification!

Lord have Mercy!

Arsenios

 

[Albion]

You may want to check what the source you used is like before agreeing with it and it is worth remembering that the picture of the little girl doesn't purport to be about separation it is about trauma at the border at the time of arrest.

No. It was about a purported separation.

Now that that has been exposed as untrue, however, there are going to be plenty of redefinitions offered. The same thing happened when the picture of the child crying and holding the fence wire was shown not to have been taken during the Trump administration but the Obama administration instead. Immediately, we were told that there had not really been a suggestion of that child being caged, but just that children were unhappy or something like that.

 

[Arsenios]

No. It was about a purported separation.

Now that that has been exposed as untrue, however, there are going to be plenty of redefinitions offered. The same thing happened when the picture of the child crying and holding the fence wire was shown not to have been taken during the Trump administration but the Obama administration instead. Immediately, we were told that there had not really been a suggestion of that child being caged, but just that children were unhappy or something like that.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave...
When first we practice...
To deceive..."

Anyone besides me remember the Shadow?

Arsenios

 

[Arsenios]

You may want to check what the source you used is like before agreeing with it and it is worth remembering that the picture of the little girl doesn't purport to be about separation it is about trauma at the border at the time of arrest. But maybe that has become a casualty of the media attention heaped upon it.

It was there to slander the President of the United States with false imges and lies...

Arsenios

 

[MoreCoffee]

It was there to slander the President of the United States with false imges and lies...

Arsenios

The photograph is of a real event with real people so it is not a false image. It may be used for purposes that upset some people but that doesn't change the fact that the image records.

 

[Lamb]

When the time comes that you can't trust TIME magazine then you know the media has sunk to a new complete low.

 

[Albion]

The photograph is of a real event with real people so it is not a false image. It may be used for purposes that upset some people but that doesn't change the fact that the image records.

It isn't a picture of a child crying because it had been separate from its parent, however; but that is how it was represented by the Liberals.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It isn't a picture of a child crying because it had been separate from its parent, however; but that is how it was represented by the Liberals.

I think not. The picture is of a child crying at her mother's feet as her mother is frisked and soon will be arrested. Whatever the media may have said the image itself is clearly not of a child already separated from its mother.

 

[Albion]

I think not. The picture is of a child crying at her mother's feet as her mother is frisked and soon will be arrested.
.

Some people will believe whatever they want to believe. That is the hope of the folks who produce these carefully-edited pics.



One, the kid wasn't separated.

Two, family separation indeed occur, from the Honduran illegal immigrant's side. The girl's mother had actually abandoned three other children and her father, to take the one-year-old toddler, through the hands of smugglers, to the U.S. illegally, without the father's permission. She in fact didn't tell anyone.

Three, this was no poverty story: The kid's expensive shoes and jacket offered a hint of that in the photo, but now it turns out the mother apparently lived a very wealthy life, her spouse or babydaddy a sea captain over in Puerto Cortes. She had a spare $6,000 handy to pay a human smuggler for the crossing, according to the father.

Oh, and she's been deported before, in 2013, a multiple entry case with little regard for U.S. law, as so many of them are.

(https://www.americanthinker.com/)

 

[Arsenios]

Some people will believe whatever they want to believe. That is the hope of the folks who produce these carefully-edited pics.



One, the kid wasn't separated.

Two, family separation indeed occur, from the Honduran illegal immigrant's side. The girl's mother had actually abandoned three other children and her father, to take the one-year-old toddler, through the hands of smugglers, to the U.S. illegally, without the father's permission. She in fact didn't tell anyone.

Three, this was no poverty story: The kid's expensive shoes and jacket offered a hint of that in the photo, but now it turns out the mother apparently lived a very wealthy life, her spouse or babydaddy a sea captain over in Puerto Cortes. She had a spare $6,000 handy to pay a human smuggler for the crossing, according to the father.

Oh, and she's been deported before, in 2013, a multiple entry case with little regard for U.S. law, as so many of them are.

(https://www.americanthinker.com/)

The assault on America by the Left uses images falsely for propaganda...

The problem they have is that they don't have enough police-state power to persecute their opponents into silence...

They used that power in the IRS to silence the Tea Party...

They used that power in the FBI to exonerate Hilary's crimes...

They used that power in the FBI to persecute the President Elect of the United States of America...

They used that power to appoint Left Wing judges in the lower courts...

We ALL know their power-lusting agenda...

And their disdain for truth and objectivity and fairness...

Lord have Mercy have we dodged a bullet...

Maybe...

Arsenios

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

You may want to check what the source you used is like before agreeing with it and it is worth remembering that the picture of the little girl doesn't purport to be about separation it is about trauma at the border at the time of arrest. But maybe that has become a casualty of the media attention heaped upon it.

How about this source?

Crying girl in iconic image was never separated from mother, ICE says

The picture of a Honduran girl crying as she and her mother are detained in Texas has grabbed worldwide attention and come to symbolize the intense debate about separating children from their parents. Time magazine put the young girl on this week's cover, but the Border Patrol agent involved in the dramatic scene says the photo might be a little misleading. Immigration and Customs Enforcement confirmed to CBS News the mother and daughter are being housed together at a facility in Texas and her immigration proceedings are ongoing.

There are statements from the photographer as well, who had been travelling with the border patrol agent all day, about exactly what happened

 

[MoreCoffee]

How about this source?

Crying girl in iconic image was never separated from mother, ICE says



There are statements from the photographer as well, who had been travelling with the border patrol agent all day, about exactly what happened

But who said that that specific girl was one of the 2,300 children separated from their parents in the past month and a bit?

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

-__- No-one. Welcome to media spin. Observe:

 

[MoreCoffee]

-__- No-one. Welcome to media spin. Observe:

The photographer and the interviewer both do not know what happened to that specific child. The photographer assumed that they would be separated. He does state that he does not know what happened after the photos of the event were taken. The reporting at CNN does give the impression that separation would happen "away from the lens [of cameras]" but that is fairly typical of USA reportage nowadays. From what I see CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews all have very strongly partisan political views to express. The old idea of "objective journalism" appears to be gone from those networks on matters to do with USA partisan political issues. That is a pity. Try PBS NewsHour if you want something less partisan. Or news feeds from other countries and stay away from CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It's one week later and another comment from Mark Shields and David Brooks is available. It's informative,

 

[Albion]

The photographer and the interviewer both do not know what happened to that specific child. The photographer assumed that they would be separated....

Assumed, eh?

He does state that he does not know what happened after the photos of the event were taken. The reporting at CNN does give the impression that separation would happen "away from the lens [of cameras]"....

This is not making it look any better.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

What they'd said (in the recent PBS piece) about the 'trends' of support rising and falling has some evidence behind it. It's based on a recent 'Gallup' opinion poll that puts support of increasing "immigration" at 28%, and "LEGAL immigration" at 34%. The questions were phrased differently for about half of the sample each. But it is what it is - an opinion poll of about 1,500 persons. They appeared to also do some basic weighting of demographics. What I found interesting about the poll as well was that the percentage of respondents who said immigration should "stay the same" has stayed fairly level over time. Looking at the graphic as well, there are "peaks and valleys" throughout; so even though "increase" is on an upward trend, it has been before, has leveled off, and has fallen.

I think, too, the current "climate" should be considered in interpreting numbers such as this. So this "record high" as Gallup calls it, shouldn't really be so surprising

Record-High 75% of Americans Say Immigration Is Good Thing

 

[tango]

There are not many individuals of the poisonous species, not nearly as many as the USA has rattlesnakes. And we don't have huge bears to eat us, and no bubonic plague in mountainous regions and no rabies so I bet you are jealous of my cosy island home too

Meh.... I'd like to visit it some day but don't travel well enough to deal with that long on a plane. Maybe if I win the lottery I'll do a round-the-world cruise and visit.

You only need one taipan to bite you for it to be game over.

 

[tango]

What they'd said (in the recent PBS piece) about the 'trends' of support rising and falling has some evidence behind it. It's based on a recent 'Gallup' opinion poll that puts support of increasing "immigration" at 28%, and "LEGAL immigration" at 34%. The questions were phrased differently for about half of the sample each. But it is what it is - an opinion poll of about 1,500 persons. They appeared to also do some basic weighting of demographics. What I found interesting about the poll as well was that the percentage of respondents who said immigration should "stay the same" has stayed fairly level over time. Looking at the graphic as well, there are "peaks and valleys" throughout; so even though "increase" is on an upward trend, it has been before, has leveled off, and has fallen.

I think, too, the current "climate" should be considered in interpreting numbers such as this. So this "record high" as Gallup calls it, shouldn't really be so surprising

Record-High 75% of Americans Say Immigration Is Good Thing

The trouble is that not all immigrants are equal.

If an immigrant is someone who wants to move to a new country, integrate and contribute to society in their new home it makes sense to welcome them. If an immigrant wants to move to a new country and not even learn the language beyond what is required to claim public assistance, refuse to integrate and expect everything to change to suit their preferences, maybe there's less reason to welcome them.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Meh.... I'd like to visit it some day but don't travel well enough to deal with that long on a plane. Maybe if I win the lottery I'll do a round-the-world cruise and visit.

You only need one taipan to bite you for it to be game over.

Stay away from swamps, that is where they live.