What are you eating? - Part 2

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No such thing. You'd have to invent "bacon flour" first for that - and to date, I don't think this has ever been tried.

I'm having tea at the moment: Bay leaf, Cardamom, Cinnamon, Dark muscovado sugar

One could put bacon into a pancake :)
 

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I remember Aunt Jemima. It sure looks like down home cooking. I looked at the pancake/waffle ingredients.

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED BLEACHED FLOUR (BLEACHED WHEAT FLOUR, NIACINAMIDE, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID), SUGAR, LEAVENING (SODIUM BICARBONATE, SODIUM ALUMINUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE), DEXTROSE, DRIED BUTTERMILK, PALM OIL, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CALCIUM CARBONATE, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, SODIUM CASEINATE, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, LACTIC ACID, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, TOCOPHEROLS (PRESERVATIVE), SODIUM METABISULFITE.

Hmm.

Pretty picture, tho.
 

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I remember Aunt Jemima. It sure looks like down home cooking. I looked at the pancake/waffle ingredients.

INGREDIENTS: ENRICHED BLEACHED FLOUR (BLEACHED WHEAT FLOUR, NIACINAMIDE, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID), SUGAR, LEAVENING (SODIUM BICARBONATE, SODIUM ALUMINUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE), DEXTROSE, DRIED BUTTERMILK, PALM OIL, SALT, WHEAT GLUTEN, CALCIUM CARBONATE, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, SODIUM CASEINATE, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, LACTIC ACID, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, TOCOPHEROLS (PRESERVATIVE), SODIUM METABISULFITE.

Hmm.

Pretty picture, tho.

I haven't used a mix for pancakes in over 15 years. It's just as quick to whip it up with ingredients on hand and it tastes better.
 

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I haven't used a mix for pancakes in over 15 years. It's just as quick to whip it up with ingredients on hand and it tastes better.

Ok.

The pancakes you make with whatever ingredients you use - do they fill you up and satisfy you -and do they do so for very long? Do they spike your blood sugar giving you a sugar rush followed by the sugar blues? These are some of the reasons I am going through the process of sprouting my legumes (and now starting to with grains) and then drying. It's really not *work* per se - but it does take time - time to soak /sprout/dehydrate.

I know the grain that I buy - in the form of flour or ready made products like pasta or bread is always nutrient deficient and hard to digest. Even so called "enriched" flours. Wholemeal flours and breads are often 50% or less real wholemeal.

What's more - the grain products are not sprouted first - which means that as unsprouted seeds they have anti-nutrients in them that do not release all of their nutrients to the human body - AND make them hard to digest. If that wasn't bad enough - they are milled and stored for long periods as milled grains - exposing them to toxins such as aflatoxin.

Because of all these things - grains don't deliver what they were meant to. One doesn't get nearly the nutrition from them that they could. Instead, the unprocessed whole grains are given to animals to eat - and even then they are not the ideal food (grass is) - but as grains they are STILL not sprouted as animal feed witch is partly responsible for the indigestion the cow gets and why it farts so much after eating them! Nevertheless - grain fed cows are getting better nutrition than most humans who depend on processed grains for their food stuffs. And this is one reason people eat more animal products.
 

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I had some rolled oats cooked into a nice thick porridge and added some milk. It was a nice and filling meal.
 

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Ok.

The pancakes you make with whatever ingredients you use - do they fill you up and satisfy you -and do they do so for very long? Do they spike your blood sugar giving you a sugar rush followed by the sugar blues? These are some of the reasons I am going through the process of sprouting my legumes (and now starting to with grains) and then drying. It's really not *work* per se - but it does take time - time to soak /sprout/dehydrate.

I know the grain that I buy - in the form of flour or ready made products like pasta or bread is always nutrient deficient and hard to digest. Even so called "enriched" flours. Wholemeal flours and breads are often 50% or less real wholemeal.

What's more - the grain products are not sprouted first - which means that as unsprouted seeds they have anti-nutrients in them that do not release all of their nutrients to the human body - AND make them hard to digest. If that wasn't bad enough - they are milled and stored for long periods as milled grains - exposing them to toxins such as aflatoxin.

Because of all these things - grains don't deliver what they were meant to. One doesn't get nearly the nutrition from them that they could. Instead, the unprocessed whole grains are given to animals to eat - and even then they are not the ideal food (grass is) - but as grains they are STILL not sprouted as animal feed witch is partly responsible for the indigestion the cow gets and why it farts so much after eating them! Nevertheless - grain fed cows are getting better nutrition than most humans who depend on processed grains for their food stuffs. And this is one reason people eat more animal products.

Yes, my pancakes will fill me up until lunch time. I have the recipe memorized so it goes quickly to gather everything and just throw it in the bowl and then onto the griddle. There is only 1 tbsp of sugar in the recipe for 12-14 pancakes and I've never noticed getting a sugar rush. I like making the entire batch at once and then putting the ones we don't eat into the freezer for subsequent days. Ever since my surgery I can only eat 2 pancakes now whereas I used to eat 3. I just get full so quickly now.
 

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Yes, my pancakes will fill me up until lunch time. I have the recipe memorized so it goes quickly to gather everything and just throw it in the bowl and then onto the griddle. There is only 1 tbsp of sugar in the recipe for 12-14 pancakes and I've never noticed getting a sugar rush. I like making the entire batch at once and then putting the ones we don't eat into the freezer for subsequent days. Ever since my surgery I can only eat 2 pancakes now whereas I used to eat 3. I just get full so quickly now.

I think you missed the main points of my post. I have communicated to you - and to everyone who reads it - the basic reason humans are not getting the most nutrition out of their grains and instead rely on animals. For starters, the flour you buy isn't truly a whole grain - at least it isn't here in Aus - "wholegrains" are like 50% or less real whole grain. That means for the rest of it - the nutrition has been taken out - and why? Usually for shelf life. For $$.

For grains that are whole - the milling and storage process open up the grains to aflatoxins.

For true whole grains that aren't affected - they still do not deliver as they are not sprouted - and seeds NEED to be sprouted for all their goodness to be bio-available.

I know that flies in the face of modern industrial living - but that is the truth.
 

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I am having these little wafers I made from 100% wheat dough that I sprouted, dried and milled myself. Other ingredients are powdered onion, caramelized onion, tomato powder, garlic powder, salt, soy sauce, pepper, oil, and water of course. Gently cooked in oil.
 

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I think you missed the main points of my post. I have communicated to you - and to everyone who reads it - the basic reason humans are not getting the most nutrition out of their grains and instead rely on animals. For starters, the flour you buy isn't truly a whole grain - at least it isn't here in Aus - "wholegrains" are like 50% or less real whole grain. That means for the rest of it - the nutrition has been taken out - and why? Usually for shelf life. For $$.

For grains that are whole - the milling and storage process open up the grains to aflatoxins.

For true whole grains that aren't affected - they still do not deliver as they are not sprouted - and seeds NEED to be sprouted for all their goodness to be bio-available.

I know that flies in the face of modern industrial living - but that is the truth.


The nutrition that was removed by law in some countries has to be returned. Maybe not in Australia though.
 

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The nutrition that was removed by law in some countries has to be returned. Maybe not in Australia though.

How come it seems like you read the first line of what you quote and only respond to that?

Anyway - don't fool yourself. Unless you are buying sprouted grain flour that is 100% of the grain or sprouting it yourself you are cheating yourself. The only reason certain nutrients are added back in in small quantities is to cover up what would become obvious otherwise - major nutritional deficiencies that manifest themselves as various diseases.

GOD DIDN'T DESIGN THE GRAIN TO BE BROKEN UP INTO PIECES AND SOLD SEPARATELY FOR YOUR HEALTH!!!!

I might add - the cows being fed grains to fatten them up quicker aren't thanking us either. They are ruminants - meant to feed on grass. Un-sprouted grains in their diet cause major indigestion leading to flatulence - and some believe this is a major cause of "global warming" (I don't -and the earth isn't a globe) - but I will remember this next time some global warming guru brings up that subject - cow farts are majorly contributing. Time to stop eating them :p
 

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I like "white" pasta because it cooks better and tastes better than wholegrain pasta. I like wholemeal bread because I like the taste and it works well with the foods I put on it. I like nuts and legumes because they taste good. I like vegetables because they are delicious - especially roasted. I like bacon because it is delicious. I like chicken because it goes well in Korma and other dishes that I cook. I do not worry overly much about being vegan or vegetarian because I eat plenty of vegetables anyway and meat is good and tasty in the dishes I cook with meat. I try hard not to make a religion out of health and food.
 

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I like "white" pasta because it cooks better and tastes better than wholegrain pasta.

Nope - it doesn't, but removed nutrients may make it seem like it "cooks better" to people who think like you. Children of the State - of the so called false prophet Saul/Paul who helps lead the world astray with lies. Romans 13. Obey the State. Do what they say. Kill on command - lets murder in the name of God! The murderers will receive their just deserts - and they will be punished before they are destroyed! Death to worshipers of the Beast!

I like wholemeal bread because I like the taste and it works well with the foods I put on it. I like nuts and legumes because they taste good. I like vegetables because they are delicious - especially roasted. I like bacon because it is delicious. I like chicken because it goes well in Korma and other dishes that I cook. I do not worry overly much about being vegan or vegetarian because I eat plenty of vegetables anyway and meat is good and tasty in the dishes I cook with meat. I try hard not to make a religion out of health and food.

Dumb Paulians like you will never accept the truth, as told in Daniel 1. False "Jews" and False "followers of Christ" - could never accept the truth of this Scripture. Destined to die and suffer as rebels.

When you suffer your diabetes and your cancer and your other diseases - the Lord mocks you. You mocked scripture - and you mocked His word - and you worshiped the beast and his lies, which you loved - and it all comes back to bite, doesn't it?

God mocks you, because you mock Him!
 

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I think that the word you intended is "accept".

PS: I am already quite elderly so I am not going to worry too much about type 2 diabetes. As for Cancer, it comes to people at all sorts of ages and to vegans and vegetarians too.
 

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I think that the word you intended is "accept".

PS: I am already quite elderly so I am not going to worry too much about type 2 diabetes. As for Cancer, it comes to people at all sorts of ages and to vegans and vegetarians too.

So true. Not all cancers are caused by foods. Some are from a virus called HPV. Other cancers are caused by trauma to areas. Radiation, x-rays, they can cause cancer. Chemicals can cause cancer. Breathing second hand smoke as a child can cause cancer. The list is never ending.

It's great to want to live life in a healthy manner but please, Strav, don't think that you'll be 100% free from getting cancer because you just never know.
 

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So true. Not all cancers are caused by foods. Some are from a virus called HPV. Other cancers are caused by trauma to areas. Radiation, x-rays, they can cause cancer. Chemicals can cause cancer. Breathing second hand smoke as a child can cause cancer. The list is never ending.

It's great to want to live life in a healthy manner but please, Strav, don't think that you'll be 100% free from getting cancer because you just never know.

I watched my wife seize to death when she was 33, sister. She had allergies like you. She drank products containing Aspartame like you used to. She did not smoke. She did not drink. She did not get x-rays or radiation. She did not have HPV.

Her diet - which mainly included refined grains (white, so called "wholewheat", refined sugars) and lots and lots of animal products (meat, eggs, milk, cheese) as well as chemical sweeteners and almost no vegetables, seeds, nuts or fruits is what gave her her cancer.
 

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I think that the word you intended is "accept".

PS: I am already quite elderly so I am not going to worry too much about type 2 diabetes. As for Cancer, it comes to people at all sorts of ages and to vegans and vegetarians too.

I'm sure they do.

But Daniel and his men didn't. Daniel chapter 1. Daniel also didn't live in a time where there was industry around to split up his pulse or grain and give it back to him in the form of bread, noodles, sugar etc. There was no industry around to give him chemicals to eat and drink. Nope. They are eating only pulse (seeds, nuts, legumes - food that GROWS AND IS ALIVE and activated after it is soaked) - untampered with, as God intended.

Do you believe it?

Vegetarians and Vegans can eat a crap diet that includes food not intended for the human body and yes - get disease as well.

And by the way, do you know what the Hebrew word stands for when it calls Yeshua - your savior "The Branch"? Zechariah 3:8

Guess what? https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H6780&t=KJV

SPROUT.
 
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I believe that living to age 70 was not so easy in Daniel's time and that reaching 80 was rare indeed. To die at 70 now is considered young and many reach 80. In Australia the average life expectancy is 81.5 for men and 83.5 for women and very few of those who live to that age are vegan.
 
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