the meaning of Baptism

[user1234]

What does baptism mean? You haven't said.

Water-baptism?

Where does holy scripture say that baptism is symbolic?

Water-baptism?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Water-baptism?

Water-baptism?

That's the only kind of baptism really.

 

[MennoSota]

What does baptism mean? You haven't said.

Go back and reread the thread. I have stated what the Bible presents about baptism. I won't rehash what has already been said.

 

[MennoSota]

That's the only kind of baptism really.

No, it's not, but it's certainly your weak assertion.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Go back and reread the thread. I have stated what the Bible presents about baptism. I won't rehash what has already been said.

I see, so what is you summary of what baptism means?

 

[MoreCoffee]

No, it's not, but it's certainly your weak assertion.

IN scripture there is baptism. No "water baptism" and no "other baptism" whatever you conceive the other to be. Just baptism and it is with water and Spirit.

 

[MennoSota]

I see, so what is you summary of what baptism means?

Go read it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Go read it.

Okay, you don't have a clue what it means. But you insist n submerging people

 

[MennoSota]

You are tiresome MC...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/baptism-John-3-5.html

 

[MoreCoffee]

4. Baptism Is in the Trinitarian Name

Fourth, baptism means doing this immersing in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That’s what Jesus said in Matthew 28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” This means that not just any immersing is baptism. There is a holy appeal to God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit to be present in this act and make it true and real in what it says about their work in redemption. There is no salvation without the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. When we call on their name, we depend upon them and honor them and say that this act is because of them and by them and for them.

The quote is the only post you're written where you say "baptism means" but you do not actually say what baptism means. Is that because you do not know what it means. Besides it is a cut & paste from another source rather than your own words. Of course that is okay but it still does not say what baptism means.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You are tiresome MC...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/baptism-John-3-5.html

Why do you think I am going to follow a bunch of people who say "We are Christian, Protestant, conservative, evangelical, fundamental, and non-denominational." I am Christian and Catholic and not an evangelical and not a Protestant and not fundamental and not non-denominational. Try again.

What does baptism mean, if you know then tell us.

 

[Imalive]

IN scripture there is baptism. No "water baptism" and no "other baptism" whatever you conceive the other to be. Just baptism and it is with water and Spirit.

No there's water baptism and baptism in the Holy Spirit most of the time directly after that, sometimes before.
And there are 2 baptisms in water. The baptism of John for repentance and the baptism in Jesus' Name. John said Jesus would baptize em in the Holy Spirit and w fire.

 

[MoreCoffee]

No there's water baptism and baptism in the Holy Spirit most of the time directly after that, sometimes before.
And there are 2 baptisms in water. The baptism of John for repentance and the baptism in Jesus' Name. John said Jesus would baptize em in the Holy Spirit and w fire.

The holy scriptures tell us that there is one baptism. Haven't you read this passage?

Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, [5] one Lord, one faith, one baptism, [6] one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.
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Catholics know this and always have. There is one baptism not two or three or many. Just one.

 

[Imalive]

The holy scriptures tell us that there is one baptism. Haven't you read this passage?

Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, [5] one Lord, one faith, one baptism, [6] one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.
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Catholics know this and always have. There is one baptism not two or three or many. Just one.

Acts 19

And it happened, while Apollos was at Corinth, that Paul, having passed through the upper regions, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples 2 he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?”

So they said to him, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.”

3 And he said to them, “Into what then were you baptized?”

So they said, “Into John’s baptism.”

4 Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. 7 Now the men were about twelve in all.

 

[Imalive]

Baptisms lol:

Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will[a] do if God permits.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Acts 19

And it happened, while Apollos was at Corinth, that Paul, having passed through the upper regions, came to Ephesus. And finding some disciples 2 he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?”

So they said to him, “We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.”

3 And he said to them, “Into what then were you baptized?”

So they said, “Into John’s baptism.”

4 Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. 7 Now the men were about twelve in all.

Paul explained that they'd received John's Baptism not Baptism into Jesus Christ. John's baptism was a Jewish Michva - the highest and last Michva that God gave. Christian baptism is union with Christ and the Spirit. That is why there is one baptism not two or three or several. Just one as Ephesians 4:5 says.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Baptisms lol:

Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will[a] do if God permits.

When you recover from your chuckles take a brief look at this:

of the doctrine of baptisms] Perhaps rather, “of ablutions” (Heb 9:10; Mar 7:3-4), both

1. from the use of the plural (which cannot be explained either physically of “triple immersion,” or spiritually of the baptisms of “water, spirit, blood”); and
2. because baptismos is never used of Christian baptism, but only baptisma.

If, as we believe, the writer of this Epistle was Apollos, he, as an original adherent “of John’s baptism,” might feel all the more strongly that the doctrine of “ablutions” belonged, even in its highest forms, to the elements of Christianity. Perhaps he, like Josephus (Antt. xviii. 5, § 2), would have used the word baptismos, and not baptisma, even of John’s baptism. But the word probably implies the teaching which enable Christian catechumens to discriminate beween Jewish washings and Christian baptism.
(The Cambridge Bible Commentary)​

 

[Imalive]

When you recover from your chuckles take a brief look at this:

of the doctrine of baptisms] Perhaps rather, “of ablutions” (Heb 9:10; Mar 7:3-4), both

1. from the use of the plural (which cannot be explained either physically of “triple immersion,” or spiritually of the baptisms of “water, spirit, blood”); and
2. because baptismos is never used of Christian baptism, but only baptisma.

If, as we believe, the writer of this Epistle was Apollos, he, as an original adherent “of John’s baptism,” might feel all the more strongly that the doctrine of “ablutions” belonged, even in its highest forms, to the elements of Christianity. Perhaps he, like Josephus (Antt. xviii. 5, § 2), would have used the word baptismos, and not baptisma, even of John’s baptism. But the word probably implies the teaching which enable Christian catechumens to discriminate beween Jewish washings and Christian baptism.
(The Cambridge Bible Commentary)​

It's 2 things that you call one cuz it mostly happened st the same time.

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.

Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”

 

[MoreCoffee]

It's 2 things that you call one cuz it mostly happened st the same time.

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.

Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”

It is saint Paul who calls it one. Saint Paul wrote Ephesians 4:5.

 

[Lamb]

The holy scriptures tell us that there is one baptism. Haven't you read this passage?

Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, [5] one Lord, one faith, one baptism, [6] one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.
​

Catholics know this and always have. There is one baptism not two or three or many. Just one.

Lutherans believe in one baptism too. Just because there was one instance in the bible where the men did not receive the holy spirit after baptism, people mistake it to mean that's how it normally is. But God used that as a sign for people to see that the Holy Spirit is given in baptism...the one baptism that Jesus instituted with authority.