Republicans

[MarkFL]

If people who vote republican are worried that H R Clinton is corrupt or incompetent then why didn't they choose a candidate who was not corrupt and who was competent instead of the error prone dishonest candidate that they did choose?

That's a great question. I think Trump's appeal lies mainly in those who are as ignorant of political affairs as Trump is, and most people here have no clue about global affairs or would be able to point by finger to the 7 continents on a world map. So, I would say the main reasons a clown like Trump has gotten as far as he has is due to this rampant ignorance, and close behind is a well-placed distrust of Clinton. Clinton would likely have been easy to defeat had the Republicans been able to put forth a viable qualified candidate, or at least someone remotely presidential in demeanor.

 

[MoreCoffee]

That's a great question. I think Trump's appeal lies mainly in those who are as ignorant of political affairs as Trump is, and most people here have no clue about global affairs or would be able to point by finger to the 7 continents on a world map. So, I would say the main reasons a clown like Trump has gotten as far as he has is due to this rampant ignorance, and close behind is a well-placed distrust of Clinton. Clinton would likely have been easy to defeat had the Republicans been able to put forth a viable qualified candidate, or at least someone remotely presidential in demeanor.

I am inclined to think that his support is from political tribe rather than from ignorance. The folk here who support Donald Trump do so because he is Republican and they say Republicans stand for anti-abortion, freedom, small business and so forth. It is like the war between apple & microsoft fan boys

 

[MarkFL]

I am inclined to think that his support is from political tribe rather than from ignorance. The folk here who support Donald Trump do so because he is Republican and they say Republicans stand for anti-abortion, freedom, small business and so forth. It is like the war between apple & microsoft fan boys

Yes, fan boys will be fan boys, that's for sure. It takes the thinking out of the equation. I have heard people say things like "Trump has the guts to say things that need to be said." I guess I hear him differently, because all I hear coming out of his mouth is stupidity. He has all the charm of a wasp looking for a place to sting.

 

[Rens]

You forgot to mention that the Democrat Party also "represented" the slaves as they once made tons of money by OWNING human beings.

You also forgot to mention that the Democrat Party fought the bloodiest civil war in human history in an effort to KEEP those slaves as their own property -- as they fought the Republican party (yes, you also forgot to mention that about the Repubs), which was formed -- in large part -- as an anti-slavery party bathed in the American principle that all men are created equal and should be free.

You also forgot to mention that the Democrat Party, in the post civil war years, created the KKK to terrorize and lynch the former slaves that they once owned as their personal property.

You also forgot to mention that the Democrat Party, in the century following their slave owning years, began giving away entitlements as a way of bringing black people back to the "plantations" of the voting booths: vote for us and we'll keep sending you your checks. In conjunction, the Democrats obliterated the formerly strong family units of black people.

You also forgot to mention that the Democrat Party, in its usual immoral fashion, began murdering millions of black babies as this sick political party -- almost a religion in its own right -- began to initiate its own "sacrament" of abortion.

To put it bluntly, the Democrat party is the most evil, blood stained, dishonest & murderous political entity in the entire course of human history.

So, if you care to add all of the above to your summary of the Democrat party, you will have achieved a 100% upgrade in accuracy. :=D:

Democrats the KKK? Really? Eeeww, the leftish here let refugees in, the right ones kick them out, even people who got saved here, go back to your own country! The rights are unchristian and antisocial and want money for the rich and the left are social but sometimes too and pro abortion anti Israel etc. The tiny christian party is a mix of both, but they don't have much to say and they're not perfect, from all this mess the best though.

 

[visionary]

Cyrus was no exactly nice either, but he was called by God to do something. Trump has been saying over 30 years, that if it ever gets to the place, he will run for President. He believes it is time. I think he was called of God for such a task as needed now. Someone has to clean house.

It is a dirty job but someone needs to do it. If it is not done now, it will be too late as corruption will be complete and will be overrun by elements that have wiped middle east, spreading through europe, and invading our country, who leave nothing but terror, destruction, disease, torment, and death in its wake. Globalists use them for their 1/2 million world wide goal.

Since his running campaign has started, the trash in Wh, congress, UN, and within members of all levels of government, like Clinton.. etc have been exposed. The evil has had its mask taken off for all the world to see. Corruption is massive. Wikileaks would not be as effective if it wasn't for someone standing in the breach and willing to take the evidence to conviction.

If Trump is elected, He will have his first day as the President, 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days after his birthday.

 

[Rens]

Cyrus was no exactly nice either, but he was called by God to do something. Trump has been saying over 30 years, that if it ever gets to the place, he will run for President. He believes it is time. I think he was called of God for such a task as needed now. Someone has to clean house.

It is a dirty job but someone needs to do it. If it is not done now, it will be too late as corruption will be complete and will be overrun by elements that have wiped middle east, spreading through europe, and invading our country, who leave nothing but terror, destruction, disease, torment, and death in its wake. Globalists use them for their 1/2 million world wide goal.

Since his running campaign has started, the trash in Wh, congress, UN, and within members of all levels of government, like Clinton.. etc have been exposed. The evil has had its mask taken off for all the world to see. Corruption is massive. Wikileaks would not be as effective if it wasn't for someone standing in the breach and willing to take the evidence to conviction.

If Trump is elected, He will have his first day as the President, 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days after his birthday.

I'm not sure but it could be. On the other hand God judges if you treat strangers who seek refuge bad, that's about the worst sin. He sounds too much like that right populist we have.

 

[psalms 91]

Cyrus was no exactly nice either, but he was called by God to do something. Trump has been saying over 30 years, that if it ever gets to the place, he will run for President. He believes it is time. I think he was called of God for such a task as needed now. Someone has to clean house.

It is a dirty job but someone needs to do it. If it is not done now, it will be too late as corruption will be complete and will be overrun by elements that have wiped middle east, spreading through europe, and invading our country, who leave nothing but terror, destruction, disease, torment, and death in its wake. Globalists use them for their 1/2 million world wide goal.

Since his running campaign has started, the trash in Wh, congress, UN, and within members of all levels of government, like Clinton.. etc have been exposed. The evil has had its mask taken off for all the world to see. Corruption is massive. Wikileaks would not be as effective if it wasn't for someone standing in the breach and willing to take the evidence to conviction.

If Trump is elected, He will have his first day as the President, 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days after his birthday.

Here is the thing, this country is going to go down, has to because of us turning away from God and to fulfill prophecy and whoever is elected will be because God puit them there for this purpose. I truly believe that the choices are how fast or slow we are going to slide further

 

[MoreCoffee]

Cyrus was no exactly nice either, but he was called by God to do something. Trump has been saying over 30 years, that if it ever gets to the place, he will run for President. He believes it is time. I think he was called of God for such a task as needed now. Someone has to clean house.

It is a dirty job but someone needs to do it. If it is not done now, it will be too late as corruption will be complete and will be overrun by elements that have wiped middle east, spreading through europe, and invading our country, who leave nothing but terror, destruction, disease, torment, and death in its wake. Globalists use them for their 1/2 million world wide goal.

Since his running campaign has started, the trash in Wh, congress, UN, and within members of all levels of government, like Clinton.. etc have been exposed. The evil has had its mask taken off for all the world to see. Corruption is massive. Wikileaks would not be as effective if it wasn't for someone standing in the breach and willing to take the evidence to conviction.

If Trump is elected, He will have his first day as the President, 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days after his birthday.

Cyrus & Donald Trump, both in your political tribe?

I haven't heard anybody refer to Donald Trump as God's anointed - Cyrus was called that - a man called by God to usher in the destruction of the USA and the crushing persecutions of the last days. Yep vote for that guy

 

[tango]

I am inclined to think that his support is from political tribe rather than from ignorance. The folk here who support Donald Trump do so because he is Republican and they say Republicans stand for anti-abortion, freedom, small business and so forth. It is like the war between apple & microsoft fan boys

I can't help thinking that both candidates will probably draw 25-30% of the vote due to nothing more than tribal voting, from the kind of people who would vote for a turnip if it had the right rosette on it.

Then there are those who will vote Clinton regardless of whether they particularly want Hillary Clinton as a person in the White House, simply because they support the Democrat platform. Likewise there are those who will vote Trump regardless of whether they want Donald Trump as a person in the White House simply because they support the Republican platform. Then there will be some who vote for one candidate merely as a tactical move to try and stop the other from gaining the White House.

Sadly much of the political "discussion" makes no sense at all - people who are very quick to write off anything anti-Hillary as Republican mudslinging and yet regard anything anti-Trump as objective truth, and likewise people who write off anything anti-Trump as Democratic mudslinging while regarding anything anti-Hillary as objective truth.

Whatever the relative merits of the two candidates and their platforms I must admit I'm staggered that Hillary is even still in the race, given it appears she's under investigation by the FBI again. I'd be interested to see what might have happened had the DNC chosen Bernie Sanders as their candidate. I don't support his platform but at least he doesn't appear tainted by endless allegations of corruption and worse.

 

[Highlander]

Democrats the KKK? Really? Eeeww, the leftish here let refugees in, the right ones kick them out, even people who got saved here, go back to your own country! The rights are unchristian and antisocial and want money for the rich and the left are social but sometimes too and pro abortion anti Israel etc. The tiny christian party is a mix of both, but they don't have much to say and they're not perfect, from all this mess the best though.

You are as wrong as wrong can get. Are you really this uninformed and confused, or are you just having a bit of fun with truth and reality? Yes, the KKK was formed and staffed by southern Democrats, the same people who owned the slaves.

Do you not know your American history?

And you are completely wrong about your comments on illegal immigration -- unless you are a very confused individual. It is the left who brings in ILLEGAL immigrants and it is the right who wants our laws to be respected by removing the illegals and telling them to come here the LEGAL way.

You leftists know that most illegals will become voters for Democrat candidates, which is why you want them here. If illegals mostly supported Republicans, you leftists would be the first to kick them out of this country.

 

[Rens]

You are as wrong as wrong can get. Are you really this uninformed and confused, or are you just having a bit of fun with truth and reality? Yes, the KKK was formed and staffed by southern Democrats, the same people who owned the slaves.

Do you not know your American history?

And you are completely wrong about your comments on illegal immigration -- unless you are a very confused individual. It is the left who brings in ILLEGAL immigrants and it is the right who wants our laws to be respected by removing the illegals and telling them to come here the LEGAL way.

You leftists know that most illegals will become voters for Democrat candidates, which is why you want them here. If illegals mostly supported Republicans, you leftists would be the first to kick them out of this country.

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I know absolutely nothing about American politics or history, but you don't even know who Rutte is LOL.


I wasn't talking about America. I explained how it is here. I never understood why you can't just vote for a real christian party in America, this weird christian thus right or unchristian thus left, christian here is in the middle. You don't kick foreigners out who come for help and you don't kill babies and you give poor people money instead of having people with huge incomes and others homeless. That is not socialism but kapitalism with socialist elements.

 

[Ackbach]

The problem is, neither Trump nor Clinton are presidential. They don't behave like presidents. Although I disagree with the way Obama breathes, I will totally say that he is presidential. I'm voting Constitution Party.

 

[Lamb]

I was watching tv yesterday and I think it was O'Reilley (?) who asked Rudy Giuliani about how Trump is going to learn all the things he needs to be President (this isn't a direct quote).

Here's the thing that was brought up. Trump runs his empire by hiring the best people for the job to do their job.

We should have confidence that Trump will put the right people in place to do a competent job (and above that). He's the type of man who wants to succeed and I think failure is too much for his ego so with that we can be assured he will at least do everything in his power to help the country.

 

[MarkFL]

Isn't Bill O'Reilly the same person who informed Dr. Tyson that science can't explain why the tide goes in and out? I wouldn't be able to watch a show hosted by someone so profoundly ignorant of basic scientific principles discovered centuries ago.

 

[Lamb]

Isn't Bill O'Reilly the same person who informed Dr. Tyson that science can't explain why the tide goes in and out? I wouldn't be able to watch a show hosted by someone so profoundly ignorant of basic scientific principles discovered centuries ago.

I do not know since I haven't watched him before.

The point though, is that a leader knows to use the skills of those around him to benefit and bring success.

 

[MarkFL]

I'm not sold yet on the skills of a man who was born wealthy, and has remained wealthy despite multiple bankruptcies. I guess only time will tell.

 

[Lamb]

Bankruptcy is not synonymous with failure.

 

[MarkFL]

Bankruptcy is not synonymous with failure.

It's not exactly indicative of business success though.

 

[Josiah]

It seems Trump acted in accord with the Law - using all the government ALLOWS to the best business advantage. I can't blame him for that - and it probably does give him insights into how that is and isn't right.

When I do my taxes, I take off every deduction I legally can. But actually, I'm against deductions... I'm in favor of a flat tax with no deductions, I think that would be better. But that's NOT what is. I go with what is... what is permitted.... and work toward changing that. I see nothing wrong with that. Legally, it's fine to work within the Law - doing what it permits, not doing what it does not. That doesn't mean the Law is right ... it may well show how it should be changed. And I sense that's what Trump is saying, but of course perhaps not.


- Josiah

 

[MarkFL]

Ugh...I didn't say what he did was illegal, what I'm saying is filing for bankruptcy multiple times does not help make the case for a skillful and successful businessman.