Justification - Part 2

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Sirach 7:31 doesn't mention sanctification - or am I missing something? Just curious...

You appear to be missing something, did you use the KJV?

Sirach 7:31 Fear the Lord, and honour the priest; and give him his portion, as it is commanded thee; the firstfruits, and the trespass offering, and the gift of the shoulders, and the sacrifice of sanctification, and the firstfruits of the holy things.
 

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You appear to be missing something, did you use the KJV?

Sirach 7:31 Fear the Lord, and honour the priest; and give him his portion, as it is commanded thee; the firstfruits, and the trespass offering, and the gift of the shoulders, and the sacrifice of sanctification, and the firstfruits of the holy things.

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You appear to be missing something, did you use the KJV?

Sirach 7:31 Fear the Lord, and honour the priest; and give him his portion, as it is commanded thee; the firstfruits, and the trespass offering, and the gift of the shoulders, and the sacrifice of sanctification, and the firstfruits of the holy things.
The Quran is in the KJV?
 

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The Quran is in the KJV?
Sirach is the book of wisdom. Its not in the quran.
Sirach taught me to never get with a female musician because she will beguil you.... thats true :)
 

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Sirach is the book of wisdom. Its not in the quran.
Sirach taught me to never get with a female musician because she will beguil you.... thats true :)
I married a clarinetist. She beguiled me...
 

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A person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
 

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What confuses me is when someone says Baptism is a public profession of someone accepting Christ and nothing more, that it does not wash away sin.
 

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What confuses me is when someone says Baptism is a public profession of someone accepting Christ and nothing more, that it does not wash away sin.

God Bless ya, George!

It bothers me too!

Anti-Biblical, I say!

Arsenios
 

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A person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
1. Faith + Works = Justification
2. Faith - Works = non Justification/dead faith
3. Faith alone (see 2)
4. Works alone - no Salvation/ no Justification/ no Hope
 

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Sirach is the book of wisdom. Its not in the quran.
Sirach taught me to never get with a female musician because she will beguil you.... thats true :)

Sirach is the Book of Eccleasticus not Wisdom. The name is the Wisdom of Sirach



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Sirach is the Book of Eccleasticus not Wisdom. The name is the Wisdom of Sirach



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Sorry it's been a while, got it mixed up. i do remember the female musician part though lol
 

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What confuses me is when someone says Baptism is a public profession of someone accepting Christ and nothing more, that it does not wash away sin.
God Bless ya, George!

It bothers me too!

Anti-Biblical, I say!

Arsenios
Ya both should read the Bible and drop your denominational dogma, then you won't be confused. The EO has you all messed up.
 

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1. Faith + Works = Justification
2. Faith - Works = non Justification/dead faith
3. Faith alone (see 2)
4. Works alone - no Salvation/ no Justification/ no Hope
I'll simplify...
Justification = God alone
 
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