Revelation 5:9 does not state that Jesus did not die for all but only, exclusively, solely for some unknown few. It has nothing to do with that. One could easily see it as implying that He DID die for all people, but the word "all" is missing, just as is the words "not all but only some unknown few."
Read the passages here. None of them state that Jesus did not die for all but only, exclusively, solely for some unknown few. Indeed it suggests the opposite, although I'd agree that "many" is not identical with "all" but it certainly is not contradictory to it. The word "many" does not mean "not all but only some unknown few."
Same as above. This does not state that Jesus did not die for all but only, exclusively, solely for some unknown few. Indeed it suggests the opposite, although I'd agree that "many" is not identical with "all" but it certainly is not contradictory to it.
Same as above.
See verse 18 (which you wanted us to skip over)
It states, "the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all"
True, we can argue about who the "us" is, but this certainly does not state, "The Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of just a few unknown persons."
Consider these:
1 John 2:2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
John 3:16 “For God so loved
the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death
for everyone.
2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has
died for all
John 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin
of the world!
2 Corinthians 5:15 And
he died for all
2 Corinthians 5:19 That is, in Christ God was reconciling
the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.
1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself as a ransom
for all.
and many more just like the above.
+ This view does NOT hold that all individuals have personal justification since that requires a second aspect, the divine gift of faith. BOTH the CROSS and FAITH are 100% the work and gift of God and together they bring justification (narrow sense) to the individual.
+ This view simply echos those words from the Bible. It doesn't explain anything, it doesn't deny anything, it affirms one point: Jesus died for all. It echos verbatim what God so often stated.
+ It is the view of the Early Church Fathers, of the Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, the Lutheran Church, the Methodist Church, most Baptist churches and Evangelical churches and nearly all other denominations and faith communities. It was declared doctrine by a Church Council in the 9th Century. It was the view of John Calvin.
@Doran
Okay, but lay aside the circular reasoning. There's nothing here that stated He died ONLY for the Elect.
In fact, see 1 John 2:2, 1 Timothy 2:6, etc.
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