It is finished

[Lamb]

When Jesus said "It is finished" on the cross, does scripture say what language he said it in?

 

[Josiah]

"It is completed."

Jesus is the Savior. He finished all needed. Sadly, a lot of Christians deny this; a lot of Christians believe that basically, Jesus blew it. He did NOT do all necessary, He neglected some things, He failed to do what is necessary to save. So, we have to bail Him out, we have to come to His rescue and do what He forgot as if Jesus is PART Savior (the part that actually saves no one) but we have to supply the PART that actually accomplishes our salvation (we being PART Savior - the part that actually does it). If Jesus is the Savior... and He completed it... then He did/does it. Nothing left undone. Nothing for us to finish.




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[Lamb]

"It is completed."

Jesus is the Savior. He finished all needed. Sadly, a lot of Christians deny this; a lot of Christians believe that basically, Jesus blew it. He did NOT do all necessary, He neglected some things, He failed to do what is necessary to save. So, we have to bail Him out, we have to come to His rescue and do what He forgot as if Jesus is PART Savior (the part that actually saves no one) but we have to supply the PART that actually accomplishes our salvation (we being PART Savior - the part that actually does it). If Jesus is the Savior... and He completed it... then He did/does it. Nothing left undone. Nothing for us to finish.




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That's not my question though...my question is in regards to the language He spoke those words in?

 

[Josiah]

That's not my question though...my question is in regards to the language He spoke those words in?

Well, we don't know exactly what He said. He only know how the Holy Spirit inerrantly conveyed that in koine Greek. And, again, as I understand it, that verb means "completed." As in nothing more to do.


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[Lamb]

Well, we don't know exactly what He said. He only know how the Holy Spirit inerrantly conveyed that in koine Greek. And, again, as I understand it, that verb means "completed." As in nothing more to do.


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Thanks! I didn't think it was mentioned anywhere but wanted to ask around.

 

[Lees]

When Jesus said "It is finished" on the cross, does scripture say what language he said it in?

I believe it would have been Hebrew. It is generally held that Jesus spoke Aramaic when He said, "...Eloi, eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34)

But when He did, it was indicated that there was interpretation. When Jesus said, "It is finished", (John 19:30), no such language is used.

Lees

 

[Lamb]

I believe it would have been Hebrew. It is generally held that Jesus spoke Aramaic when He said, "...Eloi, eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34)

But when He did, it was indicated that there was interpretation. When Jesus said, "It is finished", (John 19:30), no such language is used.

Lees

That's interesting. It's just conjecture though?

 

[Lanman87]

I have often heard that the Greek word for "It is finished" tetelestai is an accounting/financial term. When someone finished a job they would tell their employer tetelestai. Or when someone paid off a loan in full is was considered tetelestai.

Complete or Paid if full seems to line up well with Colossians 2:13-14

3 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

 

[Lees]

That's interesting. It's just conjecture though?

I suppose 'conjecture' in that we are not directly told the language Jesus used when He said 'It is finished'.

But, of course, Hebrew was the first and natural language of Jesus. Could Jesus have spoken Spanish, or Russian? I suppose so since He was the Son of God. But God did not make short cuts on behalf of Jesus. A miraculous birth, yes. But Mary would still have to bear the burden for 9 months and the pain in the giving of birth.

Jesus was brought up in a Hebrew home, with a family that spoke Hebrew. Spanish and Russian would not have communicated. So, when Jesus said to Mary and John concerning His mother, (John:26-27), He no doubt spoke in Hebrew.

And the instance where He spoke Aramaic, (Mark 15:34), when He said 'My God why hast Thu forsaken Me', it was told it was an interpretation. And no similar indication is given in (John 19:30).

So, for these reasons I feel good about it being Hebrew that Jesus spoke when He said 'it is finished'.

Lees

 

[Josiah]

So, for these reasons I feel good about it being Hebrew that Jesus spoke when He said 'it is finished'.

IMO, scholars are pretty sure He spoke Aramaic, but I think you are missing the point. IF Jesus said this word in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin or Greek (all possible I suppose) or even in Russian or French or Japanese - the point is WE DON'T KNOW THAT. What we have here is a koine Greek word. A very specific one. Not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in koine Greek. By divine inspiration. IF a translation was needed, IMO God the Holy Spirit probably did a good job at that. What we HAVE is a koine Greek word. And we know what that word means.


The word is in koine Greek: "Tetelestai." It's usually translated into English as, "It is finished" or "it is completed." This word was typically used when debt was being paid. But it was bigger than that. When someone would come with a debt so large they could never repay it, instead of throwing them in jail and never receiving any money, or instead of making them owe indefinitely, the tax collector would stamp the debt with Tetelestai. "Paid in Full" is the literal translation. The debt was forgiven. The person went free. A debt they could never repay, forgiven completely. That is what Jesus yelled from the cross. It's not just "finished"or "completed" - it's paid in full. A debt we owed but could never complete, paid for by the only one who owed nothing. And when he yelled that from the cross and died, the curtain in the Temple separating people from Most Holy God tore, from top to bottom (in and of itself, also an impossibility due to its sheer thickness). Access was granted. And then Jesus, our High Priest, sat down at the right hand of the Almighty, signifying that his work was done (priests were not allowed to sit until their job was completed) and that God had accepted his sacrifice. So we rest and rejoice in the fact of Tetelestai. Paid in Full.



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[Lees]

IMO, scholars are pretty sure He spoke Aramaic, but I think you are missing the point. IF Jesus said this word in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin or Greek (all possible I suppose) or even in Russian or French or Japanese - the point is WE DON'T KNOW THAT. What we have here is a koine Greek word. A very specific one. Not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in koine Greek. By divine inspiration. IF a translation was needed, IMO God the Holy Spirit probably did a good job at that. What we HAVE is a koine Greek word. And we know what that word means.


The word is in koine Greek: "Tetelestai." It's usually translated into English as, "It is finished" or "it is completed." This word was typically used when debt was being paid. But it was bigger than that. When someone would come with a debt so large they could never repay it, instead of throwing them in jail and never receiving any money, or instead of making them owe indefinitely, the tax collector would stamp the debt with Tetelestai. "Paid in Full" is the literal translation. The debt was forgiven. The person went free. A debt they could never repay, forgiven completely. That is what Jesus yelled from the cross. It's not just "finished"or "completed" - it's paid in full. A debt we owed but could never complete, paid for by the only one who owed nothing. And when he yelled that from the cross and died, the curtain in the Temple separating people from Most Holy God tore, from top to bottom (in and of itself, also an impossibility due to its sheer thickness). Access was granted. And then Jesus, our High Priest, sat down at the right hand of the Almighty, signifying that his work was done (priests were not allowed to sit until their job was completed) and that God had accepted his sacrifice. So we rest and rejoice in the fact of Tetelestai. Paid in Full.



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OK. Then we don't know what language Jesus spoke. I guess He grew up speaking Spanish. Right? I mean...we don't know? And we don't know that Pilate was speaking Russian to Him. Right? I mean, WE DON'T KNOW. And Mary may well have spoke Sweedish. I mean, we don't know...right?

On that basis I could say Jesus was speaking German. Don't ask me how the Jews understood Him when He spoke to them, but what does that matter. We just don't know.

An interpretation was not given in (John 19:30) because it was not needed.

An interpretation was given in (Mark 15:34) because the writer believed it was.


Lees

 

[DanielL]

Nothing left undone. Nothing for us to finish.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

 

[Fritz Kobus]

OK. Then we don't know what language Jesus spoke. I guess He grew up speaking Spanish. Right? I mean...we don't know? And we don't know that Pilate was speaking Russian to Him. Right? I mean, WE DON'T KNOW. And Mary may well have spoke Sweedish. I mean, we don't know...right?

On that basis I could say Jesus was speaking German. Don't ask me how the Jews understood Him when He spoke to them, but what does that matter. We just don't know.

An interpretation was not given in (John 19:30) because it was not needed.

An interpretation was given in (Mark 15:34) because the writer believed it was.


Lees

As I recall, Mark's gospel was written to the gentiles, so an interpretation would be in order.

 

[Fritz Kobus]

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I believe, "nothing to finish" pertains to the completed sacrifice of the Lamb of God for the sins of the world, not the conversion of individuals to receive that sacrifice through repentance and faith.

 

[Lees]

As I recall, Mark's gospel was written to the gentiles, so an interpretation would be in order.

Point being 'an interpretation was in order' in (Mark 15:34).

No interpretation given in (John 19:30).

So, again, for this and other reasons given, I believe Jesus spoke the Hebrew language, and His statement in (John 19:30), where He said 'It is finished', was in Hebrew.

In my opinion, I have no reason to think otherwise.

Lees

 

[Josiah]

OK. Then we don't know what language Jesus spoke. I guess He grew up speaking Spanish. Right? I mean...we don't know? And we don't know that Pilate was speaking Russian to Him. Right? I mean, WE DON'T KNOW. And Mary may well have spoke Sweedish. I mean, we don't know...right?

Lees,


Scholars are pretty sure He spoke Aramaic, but you are missing the point. IF Jesus said this word in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin or Greek (all possible I suppose) or even in Russian or French or Japanese - the point is WE DON'T KNOW THAT. The Holy Spirit chose NOT to quote Jesus verbatim in the original language (IF that wasn't koine Greek - and it may well have been). What we have here is a koine Greek word. THAT'S the point. The word the Holy Spirit inerrantly used (and I think He probably knew how best to translate it - if it needed translation). A very specific Greek word. The word THERE is not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in koine Greek. By divine inspiration. IF a translation was needed, IMO God the Holy Spirit probably did a good job at that. What we HAVE is a koine Greek word. And we know what that word means.


The word is in koine Greek: "Tetelestai." It's usually translated into English as, "It is finished" or "it is completed." This word was typically used when debt was being paid. But it was bigger than that. When someone would come with a debt so large they could never repay it, instead of throwing them in jail and never receiving any money, or instead of making them owe indefinitely, the tax collector would stamp the debt with Tetelestai. "Paid in Full" is the literal translation. The debt was forgiven. The person went free. A debt they could never repay, forgiven completely. That is what Jesus yelled from the cross. It's not just "finished"or "completed" - it's paid in full. A debt we owed but could never complete, paid for by the only one who owed nothing. And when he yelled that from the cross and died, the curtain in the Temple separating people from Most Holy God tore, from top to bottom (in and of itself, also an impossibility due to its sheer thickness). Access was granted. And then Jesus, our High Priest, sat down at the right hand of the Almighty, signifying that his work was done (priests were not allowed to sit until their job was completed) and that God had accepted his sacrifice. So we rest and rejoice in the fact of Tetelestai. Paid in Full.



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[Lees]

Lees,


Scholars are pretty sure He spoke Aramaic, but you are missing the point. IF Jesus said this word in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin or Greek (all possible I suppose) or even in Russian or French or Japanese - the point is WE DON'T KNOW THAT. The Holy Spirit chose NOT to quote Jesus verbatim in the original language (IF that wasn't koine Greek - and it may well have been). What we have here is a koine Greek word. THAT'S the point. The word the Holy Spirit inerrantly used (and I think He probably knew how best to translate it - if it needed translation). A very specific Greek word. The word THERE is not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in koine Greek. By divine inspiration. IF a translation was needed, IMO God the Holy Spirit probably did a good job at that. What we HAVE is a koine Greek word. And we know what that word means.


The word is in koine Greek: "Tetelestai." It's usually translated into English as, "It is finished" or "it is completed." This word was typically used when debt was being paid. But it was bigger than that. When someone would come with a debt so large they could never repay it, instead of throwing them in jail and never receiving any money, or instead of making them owe indefinitely, the tax collector would stamp the debt with Tetelestai. "Paid in Full" is the literal translation. The debt was forgiven. The person went free. A debt they could never repay, forgiven completely. That is what Jesus yelled from the cross. It's not just "finished"or "completed" - it's paid in full. A debt we owed but could never complete, paid for by the only one who owed nothing. And when he yelled that from the cross and died, the curtain in the Temple separating people from Most Holy God tore, from top to bottom (in and of itself, also an impossibility due to its sheer thickness). Access was granted. And then Jesus, our High Priest, sat down at the right hand of the Almighty, signifying that his work was done (priests were not allowed to sit until their job was completed) and that God had accepted his sacrifice. So we rest and rejoice in the fact of Tetelestai. Paid in Full.



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The point is, Jesus most likely spoke in Hebrew. There is no reason to think otherwise.

And that was the question of the opening post.

Lees

 

[Albion]

The point is, Jesus most likely spoke in Hebrew. There is no reason to think otherwise.

And that was the question of the opening post.

Lees

Aramaic was most likely Jesus' first and usual language, although it was not necessarily the only one.

 

[Josiah]

The point is, Jesus most likely spoke in Hebrew.

Let's pretend that's true. You are evading the point: The word we HAVE - the word the Holy Spirit chose to put into Scripture here - in a GREEK word. We can guess all day long whether Jesus originally said this sentence in Hebrew or Greek or Latin or Japanese, and it would be an entirely, completely, absolutely waste of time, fully irrelevant. Because the Holy Spirit didn't inspire a Latin verb or a Hebrew one, He inspired a GREEK one. Instead of fully wasting everyone's time with GUESSING about what is NOT there, we should discuss what IS there, what the Holy Spirit chose to put there, not what He MIGHT possibly have chosen to not put there.

The word is in koine Greek: "Tetelestai." It's usually translated into English as, "It is finished" or "it is completed." This word was typically used when debt was being paid. But it was bigger than that. When someone would come with a debt so large they could never repay it, instead of throwing them in jail and never receiving any money, or instead of making them owe indefinitely, the tax collector would stamp the debt with Tetelestai. "Paid in Full" is the literal translation. The debt was forgiven. The person went free. A debt they could never repay, forgiven completely. That is what Jesus yelled from the cross. It's not just "finished"or "completed" - it's paid in full. A debt we owed but could never complete, paid for by the only one who owed nothing. And when he yelled that from the cross and died, the curtain in the Temple separating people from Most Holy God tore, from top to bottom (in and of itself, also an impossibility due to its sheer thickness). Access was granted. And then Jesus, our High Priest, sat down at the right hand of the Almighty, signifying that his work was done (priests were not allowed to sit until their job was completed) and that God had accepted his sacrifice. So we rest and rejoice in the fact of Tetelestai. Paid in Full.



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[Lees]

Aramaic was most likely Jesus' first and usual language, although it was not necessarily the only one.

I disagree. Hebrew would have been the language of Jesus.

Lees