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The one whom God CHOOSES to adopt as His child.

Many are Called...
Few are Chosen...

What you do matters for your Salvation by God...

How do you understand the Parable of the Sower?

How does it explain God's Choosing?


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Many are Called...
Few are Chosen...
The parable in Matthew 22 shows us, as ambassadors of the Kingdom, that our role is to tell the entire world about God's reconciliation. God will choose whom to reconcile. This choice is not based upon human merit so that no one can boast.
What you do matters for your Salvation by God...
All our righteousness is as filthy rags, Arsenios. We ALL fall short. What we do is completely worthless in regard to why God would choose to save us. He does not look for those who, by virtue of their own self-righteousness have proved their worth.
How do you understand the Parable of the Sower?
God sovereignly directs where each seed will fall, knowing full well that some seed will not grow or flourish. God, by His Sovereign ordination determines our growth.
How does it explain God's Choosing
I believe my answer above will give you a clue.
 

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and yet he didn't believe.

So did he tag along just for the financial benefits? What was his motive for following Jesus? Maybe he did believe that Jesus was the Messiah, at least at the beginning of His ministry, but later, seeing that Jesus' mission unfolded differently than what they had imagined, changed his mind.
 

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You are onto something there, Lucian. Everybody seems to know what was going on with Judas, but the truth is that we have rather little in Scripture by which to judge.

He could have gone through all sorts of changes of belief and for any number of reasons. He could have always been a doubter, or an opportunist or, on the other hand, only came to whatever it was near to the end.
 

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The parable in Matthew 22 shows us, as ambassadors of the Kingdom, that our role is to tell the entire world about God's reconciliation. God will choose whom to reconcile. This choice is not based upon human merit so that no one can boast.

All our righteousness is as filthy rags, Arsenios. We ALL fall short. What we do is completely worthless in regard to why God would choose to save us. He does not look for those who, by virtue of their own self-righteousness have proved their worth.

God sovereignly directs where each seed will fall, knowing full well that some seed will not grow or flourish. God, by His Sovereign ordination determines our growth.

I believe my answer above will give you a clue.

You omitted the Parable of the Sower's text which you claim supports your interpretation...

Nor did you argue from cited portions of it...


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You omitted the Parable of the Sower's text which you claim supports your interpretation...

Nor did you argue from cited portions of it...


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Did the seeds choose where they would fall?
 

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So did he tag along just for the financial benefits? What was his motive for following Jesus? Maybe he did believe that Jesus was the Messiah, at least at the beginning of His ministry, but later, seeing that Jesus' mission unfolded differently than what they had imagined, changed his mind.

In the end he didn't believe, did he?
 

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I think he simply failed to repent of his sin...

The difference between him and Peter is not the gravity of the sin...

It is instead the gravity of not repenting...

How un-confessed and un-repented sin even in the elect can condemn them...

How such lack of repentance can destroy even the elect...

No one took Judas from Christ...

He caused his own destruction...


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The Seed is the Word of God


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What do you think the seeds are?

No wonder we are on different tracks!

Thank--you...

The seed is the Call of God to Repentance...

And the Holy Grace that the Call of God IS...

It is you and I who are the dirt...

Some hardened, dry and barren...

Some soft and moist and fruitful...


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No wonder we are on different tracks!

Thank--you...

The seed is the Call of God to Repentance...

And the Holy Grace that the Call of God IS...

It is you and I who are the dirt...

Some hardened, dry and barren...

Some soft and moist and fruitful...


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Why would the seed be the call of God to repentance?
Why would dirt be sent to heaven or cast to hell?
Jesus referred to himself as a seed. He doesn't consider himself to be soil. If Jesus, a human, is a seed, why would all other humans be soil?
John 12:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.
Arsenios, I believe you are misunderstanding the parable and once again attempting to force your church dogma upon God and His Word.
 

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Does the Word of God fail and die?
The very parable tells us the seed are humans.
Matthew 13:18-23
“Hear then the parable of the sower: When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away. As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty.”

How can their be no root in the Word of God? There cannot be. But, there can be no root in the human who is dead in his trespasses and sins.
The passage makes it clear that the seeds are humans who either die in their sins or who produce faith. God is the Sovereign Seed Thrower.
 

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It falls on the ears of the person who heard it and dies in that the person ignores the word and goes his own way

The Word of God cannot die unless we allow it to die by not receiving it.



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I think he simply failed to repent of his sin...

The difference between him and Peter is not the gravity of the sin...

It is instead the gravity of not repenting...

How un-confessed and un-repented sin even in the elect can condemn them...

How such lack of repentance can destroy even the elect...

No one took Judas from Christ...

He caused his own destruction...


Arsenios

Well, Judas did repent.

Matthew 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,


I think what was missing from Judas is that he could not believe that he could ever be forgiven.
We have to repent, but we have to also believe.
 

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Judas felt remorse; he did not repent as we do Metanoia is repentance and that word is not used in Matthew 26.



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Judas felt remorse; he did not repent as we do Metanoia is repentance and that word is not used in Matthew 26.



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He repented and the Bible even says so.
We really don't have to study Greek to know God's Truth.
 

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The word repent is not used in Matthew 26! Check the original language!! I did
If you're using the KJV to translate you're using a flawed translation.


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