Arnold Schwarzenegger believes Heaven is a 'fantasy', says: 'We won’t see each other again after we’re gone'

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Arnold Schwarzenegger shared his candid thoughts on heaven, religion, and the afterlife during a one-on-one conversation with long-time friend and actor Danny DeVito. During their insightful chat, DeVito asked Schwarzenegger about the future. The Terminator himself didn't mince words, offering his perspective on what happens after we die.

"It reminds me of Howard Stern's question to me. 'Tell me, governor, what happens to us when we die?' I said, 'Nothing. You're six feet under. Anyone that tells you something else is a liar,'" Schwarzenegger candidly responded.

"We don't know what happens with the soul and all this spiritual stuff that I'm not an expert in, but I know that the body as we see each other now, we will never see each other again like that." The action legend admitted that discussing death is uncomfortable, but he expressed skepticism about the concept of heaven, calling it a "fantasy".

"When people talk about, 'I will see them again in heaven,' it sounds so good, but the reality is that we won't see each other again after we're gone. That's the sad part. I know people feel comfortable with death, but I don't," he shared.

Schwarzenegger, who has experienced the loss of numerous friends within the bodybuilding industry over the years, has developed his own unique perspective on heaven. "To me, heaven is where I put a person who I love dearly, who is kind, who is generous, who made a difference in my life and other people's lives," he explained. "I keep them in a spot in my head, like that front row that you have of all of your friends. And you always have a good feeling when you think of them."

What do you think? Do you share his opinions on the matter?
 

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The article says this about his beliefs: has developed his own unique perspective on heaven.

I don't listen to non-believers on what they think happens after we die. They have no hope in God anyway, so of course they mostly think we just lie in the ground forever and that's that.
 

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I don't think we can actually know what heaven is like with our earthly mind anymore than a baby in the womb can know what the outside world is like before it is born.

But we will all know in time, either that or we will know nothing because there is nothing to do the knowing.
 
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I don't think we can actually know what heaven is like with our earthly mind anymore than a baby in the womb can know what the outside world is like before it is born.

But we will all know in time, either that or we will know nothing because there is nothing to do the knowing.

Yeah but a baby in the womb can sense the outside world and the energy from it. I watch that Maury paternity show sometimes and they will show clips of the kids back stage, and Some of those kids act like they know what's going on! Maybe not the details but at least the energy on stage from the parents. Scripture tells to dwell on the things of heaven , so I try to. and I think it will be like everything on earth (that we pay for!) is types and shadows of what is in heaven. Only free (lol), and enhanced divinely. No more cell phones, no airplanes needed, food will be free. But I think that some form of commerce will be needed? Jesus said, I go to prepare a place for you, so...we'll have houses and some will live in the city while others may live on the outskirts of town and grow food, which the city dwellers might need since they dont live on a farm with a mansion?

Quantum theory has what (I think) they call Entanglement. They said they tested it at a distance. If you stimulate two, uh, molecules, quarks? Not sure but they act the same, if one gets stimulated, then the other one does also So they did that and then took one out and flew it 50 miles away or something like that and continued to stimulate the one back at base to make it act differently and the other particle (at a distance) immediately began acting the same. So the conclusion was, every molecule or particle in the known universe knows everything that everything else does. Entanglement. So the kids backstage at Maury's do know what's going on, or at least if it is a good or bad thing.
 

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What do you think? Do you share his opinions on the matter?

I don't imagine many people on a Christian forum will agree with the view that heaven is a fantasy.
 

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I don't imagine many people on a Christian forum will agree with the view that heaven is a fantasy.
I don't know, man. There were plenty of agnostics and atheists on that other Christian forum I got banned from.
 

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It's not that heaven is a fantasy just because you've never been there. All that is is proof that Hollywood warped Arnold's mind and ability to think.
 

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I don't know, man. There were plenty of agnostics and atheists on that other Christian forum I got banned from.

Well, OK. Agnostics and atheists might agree with a perspective that's, you know, kinda agnostic/atheist in nature. But asking a question like that on a Christian forum does seem a bit like going to a meeting of your local Democrat association and asking how many people voted for Donald Trump. Sure, a few of them might be exploring options but the chances are most of them voted for Kamala Harris.
 

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Well, OK. Agnostics and atheists might agree with a perspective that's, you know, kinda agnostic/atheist in nature. But asking a question like that on a Christian forum does seem a bit like going to a meeting of your local Democrat association and asking how many people voted for Donald Trump. Sure, a few of them might be exploring options but the chances are most of them voted for Kamala Harris.
You're right. Maybe if Lamb hadn't made posting in the Christian subforums impossible for non-Christians, this community would have more active non-Christian members.
 

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You're right. Maybe if Lamb hadn't made posting in the Christian subforums impossible for non-Christians, this community would have more active non-Christian members.

Doing what? Trolling the Christians who do have a Belief? More peaceful how Lamb has it set up.

I don't know where you are coming from. You say you are a theist so believe in God...but it is not the Christian God? Do I have that right? I'm just asking. Who is your God? What is His name?

You don't seem to be seeking after the Christian God in your posts...so why come to a Christian forum?
 

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You're right. Maybe if Lamb hadn't made posting in the Christian subforums impossible for non-Christians, this community would have more active non-Christian members.

Or if you want a response from a wider cross-section, post it in a forum frequented by the people you want. A Christian forum is aimed at Christians, just like a wood turning forum is aimed at wood turners and a crochet forum is aimed at people who crochet.
 

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You're right. Maybe if Lamb hadn't made posting in the Christian subforums impossible for non-Christians, this community would have more active non-Christian members.

We have the World Religion and Speculative Theology forum for those who don't adhere to the site's statement of faith in regards to what is a Christian.
 

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Many will express strong skepticism of Heaven or anything to experience hereafter. What do you expect when there is skepticism, or from some dismissal, of God? God is necessary to any realistic Heaven that there would be to experience. But with God being good, thar is what there would be. God is not willing that any just perish. There is opportunity for any to respond to God coming to faith with repentance, to be brought to Christ who came for their atonement. To them Heaven is available, that death is not the end to their soul.
 

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Doing what? Trolling the Christians who do have a Belief?
Why do you assume that most non-Christians on Christian forums are there to troll? Some might be ex-Christians who still try to figure out their beliefs after years of religious trauma. Others might be people who see secular wisdom in Christian teachings and would like to explore it more although they lack belief in the supernatural elements. Not everyone who doesn't share your beliefs is out to troll you.

I don't know where you are coming from. You say you are a theist so believe in God...but it is not the Christian God? Do I have that right? I'm just asking. Who is your God? What is His name?

You don't seem to be seeking after the Christian God in your posts...so why come to a Christian forum?
Long story short, I sought the Christian God to the best of my abilities for years. He was almost never there to be found or to help me when I needed Him. In fact, my life seems to have gotten worse since I started seeking Him. I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance caused by the inefficacy of the Biblical promises when applied to my life. I believe in a supernatural power, deity or whatever it may be, but I'm mostly agnostic about it. I don't claim to have knowledge about said deity's characteristics or what it wants from us.

I come here mostly due to a combination of religious trauma and boredom.
 

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Long story short, I sought the Christian God to the best of my abilities for years. He was almost never there to be found or to help me when I needed Him. In fact, my life seems to have gotten worse since I started seeking Him. I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance caused by the inefficacy of the Biblical promises when applied to my life. I believe in a supernatural power, deity or whatever it may be, but I'm mostly agnostic about it. I don't claim to have knowledge about said deity's characteristics or what it wants from us.
But why were you seeking God?

To find a tool to use to magically accomplish your own will, your own purposes, fulfill your own worldly desires:

Or to find your Master's will so that you can do it as a humble servant intent on pleasing his Lord with no regard to personal desires?

Two different approaches with two very different intents and two very different results in your life.

My experience is that the Lord only responds to those who are seeking his will in their life, not those who want him to do their will for them. Self deceit often makes it difficult to discern between the two.

Your life, Your choice.
 

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Long story short, I sought the Christian God to the best of my abilities for years. He was almost never there to be found or to help me when I needed Him. In fact, my life seems to have gotten worse since I started seeking Him. I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance caused by the inefficacy of the Biblical promises when applied to my life. I believe in a supernatural power, deity or whatever it may be, but I'm mostly agnostic about it. I don't claim to have knowledge about said deity's characteristics or what it wants from us.

I come here mostly due to a combination of religious trauma and boredom
I'm not sure, either you are on the right track, so you will be attacked and hated just like Jesus was...Or, it's possible that you were living in sin of some sort and in doing so you turned your back to Him?

" the inefficacy of the Biblical promises when applied to my life. " ??
Christianity is not name it and claim it like the prosperity preachers preach. I found it to be more like...Building a Resume of Trust with the Lord. What that means is you begin to trust the Lord first. And then we do for Him what He asks in the Bible. If you read the Bible very much you'll quickly see that there is a lot more than 10 commandments! It's a book of Commandments and a nook of Promises.

You don't apply biblical promises to your life. You apply Biblical Principles to your life, and live by them. Stop stealing, if a girl lives with you, either marry her or move out, stop doings drugs, don't be sexually immoral. And all that stuff.

When you obey the Lord and do these things, doing them and obeying Him shows the Lord that you have a sincere heart towards Him and are serious about making Him the Lord of your life. You wind up surrendering to Him and you stay away from the pleasures of the world.

That's when the Lord sits up and He says, whoa, this young man is serious, let's bless him...and you have shown Him that He is able to trust you in small ways. Then as you begin to walk in faith, you become more pleasing to Him, then He starts helping you!! I have been there done that got the T-shirt. As you draw closer to God, He will draw closer to you!

One of my favorite things to pray is different Psalms. The Apostles used to pray the Psalms, and Jesus too I think. God loves it when you pray His own words to Him !!

If you want climb the Mountain of God, understand a few things. The Lord will be with you and you will see miracles happen. But in climbing the mountain of God, believe me, it gets real steep, real quick! Of course you will have increased altitude of clarity and be able to see more and more as you ascend. But! The way is steep. If you slip and fall then you fall further and do more damage to yourself than if you fell on flat ground. And I guarantee you that God will put you into tougher situations, that you don't like! The Lord has said many things to me that I did not like. As the Bible says, to whom more is given, more will be required...

How would you feel if you could have Jesus Himself hanging out with you, walking right beside you? It is written, He is the Friend that sticks closer than a Brother. When the Lord is with you, it's like a constant blessing. So, don't forget that your very best Friend is with you, so don't ignore Him. Talk to Him.

I was in a down spirit one time, I forget what my troubles were, but I prayed, Lord why did you leave me,? I feel alone. He said, I never left you, it was you who turned your back to me and walked away. I thought, Eek! and instantly knew it was true.

So developing a relationship with the Lord God is a back and forth process. Scripture says, study to show that you approved, Pray unceasingly, Meditate on the Word of God, look to the unseen and just trust him. When you take a break from reading the word of God, watch Teaching videos on youtube and do not fill your mind and heart with secular entertainment. When the Lord does something for you, He will confirm it for you and you will trust Him more. So you perhaps step out in a larger faith in Him and obey Him, and He learns that He can trust you more. Your Faith will be encouraged by the Lord. So the Lord will put you into tougher situations and test your faith in greater ways...not all of it pleasant!

If you have a favorite sin or two that you like of the world and still do, then that is probably the reason that you didn't see that prayer answered. The more you read the Bible, the more you see that is wrong with yourself so that you can make corrections to begin living a better life before God. God rewards obedience both, on this earth and in the hereafter. When we make effort, God makes effort.
 

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Why do you assume that most non-Christians on Christian forums are there to troll? Some might be ex-Christians who still try to figure out their beliefs after years of religious trauma. Others might be people who see secular wisdom in Christian teachings and would like to explore it more although they lack belief in the supernatural elements. Not everyone who doesn't share your beliefs is out to troll you.


Long story short, I sought the Christian God to the best of my abilities for years. He was almost never there to be found or to help me when I needed Him. In fact, my life seems to have gotten worse since I started seeking Him. I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance caused by the inefficacy of the Biblical promises when applied to my life. I believe in a supernatural power, deity or whatever it may be, but I'm mostly agnostic about it. I don't claim to have knowledge about said deity's characteristics or what it wants from us.

I come here mostly due to a combination of religious trauma and boredom.
You are very welcome in this forum!

We will bring you the:

-Love of Christ!

-The Spirit of the living God!

-Peace that surpasses all understanding!

-Comfort to your bones!

-Rest of the Lord!

-Clarity of mind!

-Vitality of health and wellness!


Right now we proclaim all these things in your life in abundance and power in the Name of Jesus!
We cast out and break all demonic curses attacking you right now. The demons of:

-anxiety, fear and worry
-anger, hatred, and resentment
-unforgiveness
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We break and cast out any and all evil spirits attacking you, never to return in the
Name of Jesus!

Once again: welcome!!
 
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