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  1. Arsenios

    Imputed or reckoned?

    Reckon so... :shake: A.
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    Imputed or reckoned?

    Reckon not! To believe God is to be accounted BY God unto Righteousness... Of course, if you believe God and then do not DO God's Commandments... You thereby condemn yourself... Better not to believe God and not do them... Best to believe and do... ymmv Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    I never stated that you have to repent in order for Jesus to be able to Save you... What I stated is that you must repent when Christ Calls you to repentance, and that for those who do not, Christ does not save them... Jesus CAN save whomever He wishes at any time and in any circumstance...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    When I first came to the Orthodox Faith, I saw much that was wrong and sinful in it, yet I sensed nothing wrong in its Services, in the Holy Order of Worship... At that time, I could not see the way a Service worked, or how it fit in with the rest of the Orthodox Way, or anything lie that - I...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Jesus saves us who are repenting... Are you saying Jesus has no Grace??? Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Luk 8:11-15 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Yes... Perfection in this life is not becoming God... It means overcoming sin in your own soul... Where sin no longer rules in you... It may or may not be associated with Gifts... It certainly can be and usually is... John wrote Christ's words of such as these: Rev 3:12 Him that...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    God Calls us to repentance... Then we repent... Or not... Some seed falls on the road and is eaten by crows... Some falls on shallow soil and withers with heat... Some falls among thorns and weeds... Some falls on good rich soil... Your choice... Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Well, if Salvation is a matter of union with God, and that is given by degrees according to repentance, then since God is infinite, there is always higher, and there is no upper limit to Sanctification by God - iow WE are the only LIMITING factor... Scripture does instruct us to be perfect...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Yup... every time... We repent... Jesus Saves... Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    The perfecting of the Saints is pretty much a matter between God and the one being perfected... At least that is my current take... After one's major and persistent life sins are finally put to rest, the character of one's sins shifts... As does the manner of one's walk in vigilance and...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and long-suffering inherit the promises. Not slothful followers inherit the promises... Fairly straight-foreward... Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and long-suffering inherit the promises. Arsenios
  14. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Heb 6:10-12 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence unto the full assurance of hope unto the end...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Actually, he had to wait in patient obedience to God, which he had established by obeying God unto the sacrifice of his only beloved son Isaac... Abraham did not save himself, but he did obey God unto the sacrifice of his son. God saved Abraham and Isaac... Arsenios
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    Salvation - Part 2

    God is One, and the Covenant is a relationship between God and man, and this Covenant is between God the Son and man, because it is the Covenant of the Body and Blood of Christ, where we eat His Body and drink His Blood and this in the context of living in obedience to everything that Christ...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Indeed so, for the very good reason that God alone does not need Salvation... And a Covenant is a relationship between two parties... Each party provides what is appropriate to it... Arsenios
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    Where ever Christ is, there is Paradise. Elder St. Paisios
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    Geronda, when someone is not needy but pretends to be, should we help him? Christ said, We should give to him who begs from us without examining. Even if someone who begs from you is not in need, you should still give to him. Be happy in giving to him. Elder St. Paisios of Mount Athos
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    If, after cutting off the causes of every one of the passions, the thought of them still inwardly troubles you, do not be afraid. It will procure you crowns, since it annoys you but does not win you over, and is not active. It is dead movement, conquered by your Godly struggle St. Gregory...
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