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  1. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    So the issue is this: Is the Faith a work man DOES? Or is it a belief man is given? Similarly, is the Command to LOVE thy neighbor and to LOVE God an emotional feeling or is it an obedience? And the fact is we are CALLED BY GOD to OBEY THE GOSPEL... 2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking...
  2. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    So the issue is this: Is the Faith a work man DOES? Or is it a belief man is given? Similarly, is the Command to LOVE thy neighbor and to LOVE God an emotional feeling or is it an obedience to do good unto them? And the fact is we are CALLED BY GOD to OBEY THE GOSPEL... 2Th 1:8 In...
  3. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    You quoted me, and in that quote I did not say that we are saved by or out of our works... I said that GOD WILL RAISE US UNTO HIMSELF... AND: This through our own works... (not by or out of) Is this the "double talk" you mean? We are Saved by Grace through the Faith (of Christ) That Faith...
  4. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    No one has ever argued that our Salvation by God comes OUT OF our own efforts... Hence your accusation is utterly false... But neither does it come WITHOUT our own efforts... Paul said it best, for our Salvation comes THROUGH the Faith (of Christ, which He discipled to His Apostles), and the...
  5. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Well that remark sure floats and bobs aromatically in the punch-bowl! Arsenios
  6. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    May God Bless us all... Arsenios
  7. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Everyone agrees with that statement... It is the baggage you pack into it that gives pause... eg, for instance: "We are saved prior to repentance" And this when the Call of God is unto Repentance unto entry into the Kingdom of Heaven... It is hard for you to repent from slander, isn't it...
  8. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    I was baptized in the Presbyterian Church by sprinkling while being held in my Mother's arms as a wee toddler... I remember that event... I was less than two years old - Perhaps 12-14 months old... My written prayer at confirmation at 14 was to a God I did not believe existed, and started out...
  9. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Thank-you, Josiah - Now will you agree to stop attributing motives to my words? And to actually begin to cite the words themselves instead? Another slander - My response EVERY TIME is "I agree" or "That's right"... You cannot SAY what my response is without quoting (me) - what I actually...
  10. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Josiah - You are mind-reading again... I have asked you not to do so... Will you please stop attributing motives to me that are your presumptions? Your remark is pure slander... Please cease this slander... Please acknowledge this post and either agree or not to cease slandering my...
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle. St. Philo of Alexandria
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    Do not devote all your time to your body but apply to it a measure of asceticism appropriate to its strength, and then turn all your intellect to what is within. 'Bodily asceticism has only a limited use, but true devotion is useful in all things' (I Tim. 4:8). St. Maximus the Confessor
  13. Arsenios

    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    As the poor should give thanks to God and love the rich who do them good, even more should the rich give thanks to God and love the poor; for they are saved by the providence of God ... because of their alms. -- St. Peter Damascene
  14. Arsenios

    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    For, if someone does not cut out his bad habits when he is young, then it will be very difficult later in life when the will is weakened. If a person has no willpower, he can do nothing. St. Paisios of Mt. Athos
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    A brother asked Abba Sisoes, 'What shall I do, Abba, for I have fallen?' The old man said to him, 'Get up again.' The brother said, 'I have got up again, but I have fallen again.; The old man said, 'Get up again and again; So then the brother said, 'How many times?' The old man said...
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    It is impossible for the mind to remain undisturbed by thoughts, but anyone serious about the matter can certainly permit them entry or drive them away, and although their origin does not lie entirely under our control we can choose to approve of them and to adopt them. St. John Cassian...
  17. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    We do not have a day of Commemoration for Adam that I know of - I can check... And to sin IS INDEED to turn away from God... Remember that verse? "Anything not of God is sin." It was THAT verse that utterly convicted me... Because I did not think I was doing all that much wrong... And I was...
  18. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Are people who neither believe nor confess faithful? So are there actions which a man takes that are not that man's works? Preaching is confessing the Faith to others... So would you say that confession is sometimes a work? Well, this is probably where we see it differently... To be...
  19. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Nothing in the passage indicates that this is the only way one can be Saved... But IF you have believed and confessed, you SHALL be Saved by God... Adam turned from God and died... We must turn BACK to God that we should Live... Those who do so will find Life... For God is Faithful...
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    Salvation - Part 2

    Well, "faithful" means "to believe and confess", doesn't it? I mean, it is YOU believing, not God, and YOU confessing, not God, yes? So that believing and confessing are works done by you... And if you have done them, the passage shows that you WILL be Saved... There are other ways to be...
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