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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    Well, that’s where you’re wrong. I didn’t ONLY want to discuss the Apocrypha. I have a lengthy explanation for Genesis 1 and 2. Nobody else gave one. And nobody else wanted to respond or object to my explanation either. The only reason Genesis 1 and 2 are not still being discussed is because...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    So you have no opinion, no personal interest, no inquiry? You’re just an android robot who spits out information with no human interest in the matter? Give me a break. Stop pretending like you don’t favor one side over the other.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Josiah is being unreasonably technical. It’s like if I say, “George Washington is on the dollar bill.” And then you respond, “Well, TECHNICALLY, George Washington is not ON the dollar bill. It’s just a picture of him. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING.” This stuff is nonsense. You’re right. By his logic...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Be honest. You’re arguing against it, and you know it.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Dude, what in the world are you even talking about? I didn’t choose to prove Andrew wrong. Huh??? And what do you mean apples and oranges? Huh? What? The book of 1 Maccabees contains the history that Daniel 7, 8 and 11 prophesy about. Yes, Luther said it’s helpful for understanding the...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    But doesn’t Ezra have to be prophecy in order to be scripture? They say Maccabees can’t be scripture because there were no prophets at that time. Also, since we have 3 church councils in the 4th century claiming Maccabees is scripture, aren’t you at least curious if maybe Maccabees might be...
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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    What annoys me is that nobody even tried answering the question about Genesis 1 and 2. Not one person even took a jab at it. It also annoys me how flippantly people are willing to rip out scriptures from the Bible just because of one “supposed” contradiction.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Aren’t you arguing against the Apocrypha belonging in the Bible? If not, then why are you arguing against it? For the people arguing that Maccabees can’t be scripture because there were no prophets, then they’ll have to explain how Ezra is scripture.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    That makes your case even worse. Ezra wasn’t a prophet. And he wasn’t even high priest. He was just a regular priest. So how is Ezra the Word of God? I thought it has to be prophecy to be the Word of God? Some, such as atpollard, have said that prophets confirmed Ezra to be the Word of God...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    You think Ezra was a prophet? Ok then. What did Ezra prophesy? You made a mistake. Look into it. Church leaders do not claim that Ezra was a prophet. Just a high priest and scribe. Unless, of course, you want to accept the Apocryphal book of 4 Esdras. THEN we could say Ezra was a prophet. But...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    I don’t even understand what you’re asking. It sounds to me that by your logic, no Christian can have any confidence that any book belongs in the Bible. You cast doubt on the Word of God. Are you even a Christian? Do you have any faith in God’s Word? Because you seem to be doubting that anyone...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Was Ezra a prophet? If not, then how can Ezra be the Word of God? I’ve heard many people say that Maccabees cannot be scripture because there were no prophets at that time. Ok, well, if it has to be prophecy to be scripture, then wouldn’t that discredit Ezra?
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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    I think you’re really just annoyed that I’m bringing up the Apocrypha, because you don’t want to talk about it. As for the list, there’s definitely a core list that most churches have accepted, such as the first two books of Maccabees, and Tobit and Judith, wisdom and Sirach. But then the...
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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    What are you so angry about? Often times Jesus gave a parable without telling people what it was all about. Then he explained afterwards. Is Jesus guilty of bait and switch? The term “bait and switch” is usually having to deal with retailers who show an advertisement of an expensive product...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Exactly my point though. You assume that Ezra was affirmed by a prophet. That has been claimed by many people on this forum and elsewhere. But you cannot show where any prophet affirmed the book of Ezra. Thus, I have caught you and countless others in a baseless claim: the claim that Ezra was...
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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    There’s definitely a lot of them. And atheists love to bring them up.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    First, you show me which prophet affirmed the book of Ezra. I don’t know any prophet who even mentioned Ezra. Ezra’s book doesn’t need a prophet to affirm it. Ezra was the high priest. His book is self-affirming. But if you think a prophet has to affirm it, then show me which prophet affirmed...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    I really don’t even understand what you’re asking right now. Your questions don’t make any bit of sense. Daniel 11 prophesies about Alexander defeating the Persians, and then dying and His Kingdom dividing towards the 4 winds of heaven (dividing among his 4 generals). That’s fulfilled in 1...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Yes, I’m a Christian. Christ brought division because many Jews rejected Jesus. Even today, there are Jews who accept Christ in their lives, and their family disinherits them, cuts them out of their will, etc. And this creates division in families, because there are those who accepted Christ...
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    Why does Genesis 1 and 2 contradict?

    "before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. And the Lord God formed man of...
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