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    Do Mormons even read the New Testament?

    I recommend South Park, Season 7, episode 12, “All About Mormons”. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum. No, but seriously. There’s a really good Christian documentary called “The Bible vs The Book of Mormon” that I highly recommend.
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    Do you believe that the canon started to exist the moment it was written?

    Like, was it there from day 1?
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Well, Jerome was definitely influenced by the Jews. I doubt your statement on Melito. I remember hearing from James White that Melito travelled to Israel and got the list from them. As for Athanasius, imagine someone living in New York and never rubbing shoulders with a Jew. I mean, give me a...
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Sorry, but it was not my intention to insult you. I think you misunderstood my comment. I’m not saying that you are incapable of understanding this logic. I know for a FACT that you are plenty smart enough to understand the logic behind what I’m saying. That’s my point. I’m not saying you’re...
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Jerome favored the Hebrew over the Septuagint. He also favored removing the Apocrypha. Augustine favored the Septuagint over the Hebrew (with a few exceptions). He favored including the Apocrypha. The issue of the Septuagint and the issue of the Apocrypha go hand in hand. I was listening to a...
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    What position are you defending?
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Have you done any research into the conversations between Jerome and Augustine?
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Oh, the early church used the Apocryphal books in church? Well, that’s proof that a scene from The Matrix is much more useful than books used by the early church.
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    Yea, but Aladdin and The Matrix are not canonical books of the Bible. Maccabees was at least believed by 3 local councils of the early church in the 300’s to be divine canonical scripture. Even those who said it’s not canonical still said it’s at least historically useful to understanding the...
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    The ones that did not are the ones who favored the Hebrew over the Septuagint. Sooo……obviously this issue goes hand in hand with the Septuagint.
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    Ecclesiasticals VS Canonical

    I’ve seen pastors show movie clips from Shawshank Redemption, Matrix, Narnia, Aladdin, Monty Python, and given quotes from Lincoln, U2, Walt Disney, Theodore Roosevelt, CS Lewis, JR Tolkien, and a number of other people. But NOT ONCE have I EVER had a pastor quote or share ANYTHING from...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    You attack Andrew on his claim. But you are afraid to tell us your claim. You hide behind the desk, afraid to tell anyone what you think about the Apocrypha, whether it belongs or not. I’ve asked what you think. But you refuse to answer. Instead, all you do is attack Andrew over and over...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Ah. I see what you’re saying. You’re saying that it’s my OPINION that Alexander the Great is the first king of the Greek empire, that he defeated the Persians, and that his empire split up among his 4 generals. Yea, that’s just my opinion. It’s not substantiated with historical facts. Nope...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    The fact that there were so many of those in the early church who accepted the “apocryphal” books as scripture, this to me is very strong evidence that Jesus’ disciples, and Paul, are the ones who told the early churches that it’s scripture. And that of course is very strong evidence that the...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Daniel 8 mentions the first king of the Greek empire. That was Alexander the Great. Again, you’re still playing your little immature game of “Let’s Get Technical!” The Sun doesn’t really rise in the East. It’s just the Earth that’s spinning! TECHNICALLY SPEAKING! I’m not impressed with your...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Josiah, please take more than 3 seconds thinking about this: Who is the first king of the Greek empire? “And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece. The large horn that is between its eyes is the first king.” -Daniel 8:21 - Bible Gateway passage: Daniel 8:21 - New King James Version At the...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Daniel 8 doesn’t mention the first king of the Greek empire? Wow. Sounds like you need to read Daniel 8 again. Then read history again too. You’re very confused.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Do you think Maccabees ought to be considered the Word of God, and included in the Bible? Or do you think it ought to be excluded as just ordinary history, and not t the inspired Word of God, and kept outside of Bible printings? Or included in Bibles, but in an Apocryphal section? Do you have...
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Lot’s of Deja Vu. Must be a glitch in the Matrix. A gli…gli…glitch in the Matrix.
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    If the prophecies in Daniel 8 cannot be understood without Maccabees, then doesn’t that prove Maccabees belongs in the Bible?

    Is that because you’re too scared to have an opinion, or because you’re too scared to share your opinion?
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