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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    None of the ECF published official lists of cannon, only Church denominations create lists of cannon to include or exclude books from. The ECF just quote from books in letters. You do realize that I did not write the Gospel of Luke, don’t you. I just told you what Jesus said. If Luke...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    Nothing was insinuated. “... so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house [of God;] yes, I tell you, it shall be charged...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    Fine. Then on the subject of martyrdom ... Where does the blood of those slain in Maccabees fall in “from Abel to Zechariah”? (rhetorical) Before Abel? (No.) After Abel and before Zechariah? (No.) After Zechariah? (Yes) So what does that say about Maccabees (if anything)?
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    Your LXX or Masoretic, not mine. I don’t read EITHER Greek or Hebrew and my NIV and NASB translations are not based on either the LXX or the Masoretic texts. I got no dog in THAT fight.
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    What is an average Lutheran Sunday service like?

    It is actually a lot like a mass without the “calisthenics” (although as a rule, Lutheran churches tend to rich forms in expressive materials like wood arched beams, without the ornamentation of a Roman Catholic Church.)
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    I think that by this point what I believe Jesus meant (right or wrong) should be obvious and has no need to be repeated yet again. Where does the blood of those slain in Maccabees fall in “from Abel to Zechariah”? Before Abel? After Abel and before Zechariah? After Zechariah? So what does...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    Not an Old Testament prophet ... you know, like the ones that wrote the Old Testament. What OT book did John the Baptist write that is in the Apocrypha and belongs among the Books of Moses and Daniel and Elijah? The books written by the Apostle John ARE included in the Bible ... they are in the...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    [Proverbs 4:7 NKJV] 7 Wisdom [is] the principal thing; [Therefore] get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding. [Matthew 23:34-36 NASB] 34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    So are you saying that Jesus got it wrong and Zechariah WASN’T the last Prophet martyred whose blood those that rejected Jesus stood guilty of? Jesus should have added the blood of all those killed in Maccabees? Is that your final response to the quote from Jesus that I presented in answer to...
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    In the Garden of Gethsemane

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as [we are, yet] without sin. [Hebrews 4:15 NASB] The New Covenant in My Blood (Luke 22:20) So he went to pray a third time, saying the same things again. Then he came to the...
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    In the Garden of Gethsemane

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as [we are, yet] without sin. [Hebrews 4:15 NASB] David faces Goliath all alone. Then Jesus left them a second time and prayed, "My Father! If this cup cannot be taken away...
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    In the Garden of Gethsemane

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as [we are, yet] without sin. [Hebrews 4:15 NASB] “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Have you considered the depth of meaning in those words as Jesus spoke...
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    In the Garden of Gethsemane

    For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as [we are, yet] without sin. [Hebrews 4:15 NASB] When we speak of the precious blood of Christ being shed for us, our thoughts immediately turn to the cross and His death...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    Please provide evidence that Jesus celebrated a holiday sparked by a miracle in Maccabees. What Gospel verses are you referring to? (Then I can answer your question based on the facts rather than opinions.) However, I suspect that God never commanded the celebration of the holiday in...
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    When they say that the Apocryphal books don’t belong in the Bible, who’s authority is that based on?

    “When they say that the Apocryphal books don’t belong in the Bible, who’s authority is that based on?” That depends, which “they” are saying which “Apocryphal books” do not belong? Different “they” have different reasons for saying different “books” do not belong.
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    When they say that the Apocryphal books don’t belong in the Bible, who’s authority is that based on?

    Jesus’ Authority.
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    You are incredibly sloppy with words. Please define “Apostle” as you mean the term, but the Biblical answer is “no”. The technical meaning of “apostle” is “one sent” and in the New Testament the Apostles were chosen by Christ to testify to His earthly teaching and the fact of His resurrection...
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    2ND PETER WAS WRITTEN TO ISRAEL

    Except Romans? ... And Timothy (he was a Jewish Convert)?
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    The Catholics are simply guilty of pretending that a Jewish history book (1 Maccabees even states in it that it was not written by a prophet of God) is part of the Holy Scripture that Jesus defined as beginning with Genesis and ending with Chronicles ... "Therefore, behold, I am sending you...
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    Did the Catholics make up the book of 1 Maccabees out of their imagination?

    ... by ”fictional elements” you mean things like those ’ridiculous’ miracles. Blind men being healed and dead men coming back to life, come on now, who really believes in fairy tales like that? Jesus was gave them the “proof of Jonah” in exactly the same way ... both stories are a pleasant...
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