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  1. Arsenios

    U.S. Episcopal Church Shrinking Over Same-Sex Marriage

    Orthodoxy has never burned a Priest at the stake that I know of... 2nd Millennial Rome was rather fond of it, I think... If only in the Spanish Inquisition... As was pre-Christian Rome... As is ISIS to this day... Arsenios
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    U.S. Episcopal Church Shrinking Over Same-Sex Marriage

    The reason was that the Church had been defiled, because there is no Sacramental Marriage for other than a man and a woman... Had the Priest married a woman and her dog, the same result would have ensued... Had two men entered the Church during a Service and declared their vows to each other...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Are you saying that there are differing versions of the LXX according to which Church has it? Everyone knows what the LXX is, and that it has lots of textual issues due to its age... But it is written in Greek and apart from textual issues, that text does not have various versions... There is...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Andrew Poor man's attendance: http://www.stmaryorthodoxchurch.org/multimedia/live You can even light a virtual beeswax prayer candle! Any port in a storm... Arsenios
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    U.S. Episcopal Church Shrinking Over Same-Sex Marriage

    Agreed - They would just start another denomination down the street... Honoring their Bible-based theological tradition... No question - And seeing the crumbling of the shifting sands around them, they are waking up and looking about! Arsenios
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    Communion of the Body of Christ

    That would be the 1909 s-vbd penny! The historical argument, in order to be denied, requires that the Historic Church got it wrong... That Christ failed to impart the Truth to His Own Body... And that ONLY after 1500 years did the Reformation finally get it right... And God is thanking Luther...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Those books (the LXX) have been included in the Bible for 2000 years... Are you arguing that they should be removed from the Bible? I remember when Rome interrupted a Service of the Divine Liturgy in Constantinople to deliver a Papal Bull of Excommunication on our Church... They demanded...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    A manly thing to do! No more SISSIES!! Men are MEN! We die for our women and children! We don't have women dying for us and our kiddos! You don't have a skateboard??? heeheehee! Call that Church - Talk to the Priest - Tell him you got a bee in your bonnet to come see an Orthodox...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    The God-Quest of the Christian Faith... Is a Reality-Quest... Centered in Truth... I followed God 36 years while denying He existed... Because I was willing to sacrifice everything for the Truth... Walked with Him another 14 knowing He is NOT the Christian God... And was scandalized to find out...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Great post! Who decides and how indeed!! But the Septuagint is a no-brainer... A Jewish 2nd century BC product... Unquestionably a part of the OT Canon... Arsenios
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    What an elegant and compelling refutation of a short-sighted view... Andrew, you are not as dumb as I look! Not really all that great a compliment... I mean, who could possibly be THAT dumb! :) Arsenios
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    U.S. Episcopal Church Shrinking Over Same-Sex Marriage

    That is an inspiring story, Josiah... In the EOC Communion, we are still by God's Grace not endorsing, nor are we performing, same-sex marriages... We had a story out of Russia where a very busy Church scheduled a marriage without the Priest seeing the couple... And the Church filled up with...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Josiah An easily conceded point! (eg True! Because there are a lot of issues on this ancient text) Conversely, can you cede that the LXX, and not the Masoretic OT, is the Christian OT Bible at the time of Christ? Arsenios
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    We only do a short homily, 10-15 minutes, in a chanted Service of prayers from the Psalms (mostly) that lasts an hour and a half in our Church... Plus the one and a quarter hour service preceding it... We worship - We do not lecture... Homily is on the assigned Gospel and Epistle reading for...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    A prescient observation... Thank-you... Arsenios
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    reasons to leave a church

    Mat 3:1-6 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, "The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    Those are the candles that we are still burn in our Services... Hand-dipped bee's wax tapers... Right now as I go to Services! Arsenios
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    reasons to leave a church

    This (the above) is the adult way to approach the matter... If you can't find a church you fully agree with, then find one with which you feel an affinity of spirit and prayer, and hang in there as best you can... The Orthodox, should they for instance figure out that they have an actively...
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    The Apocrypha: Does it belong in the Bible?

    You sure got THAT right! :) Arsenios
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