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    O.T. Canon Lists

    Now I will provide the canon lists of the 4th century. It is within this century that the first Latin lists appear. In keeping with the basic outline given in the OP, I have divided the lists into Greek and Latin sources starting with earliest ones first. I will post the Greek sources first...
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    O.T. Canon Lists

    Before moving on to the 4th century canon lists, certain points should be noted in regard to the above lists. (1) The above lists cover the 1st through the 3rd centuries. (2) They cover both Jewish (i.e. two) and Christian (i.e. three) sources. (3) All the lists are very consistent with each...
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    O.T. Canon Lists

    Thank you
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    O.T. Canon Lists

    Before moving on to the 4th century lists, the Jewish sources must be examined. Josephus (Against Apion I.37–44) This work is dated ca. A.D. 95. Unfortunately Josephus does not list the books by name. He states: "Our books, those which are justly accredited, are but two and twenty, and contain...
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    O.T. Canon Lists

    It is clear that many people have an interest in which books belong in the O.T. canon. However, I have not seen is anyone post the historical or manuscript evidence. I will first divided the lists into Greek and Latin sources starting with earliest ones first. The manuscript evidence also be...
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    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    Indeed it is. You are welcome and I am glad you found it helpful.
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    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    I believe there is an article in there by Raymond E. Brown (an excellent scholar) covering the Jamnia topic.
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    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    You are welcome. Do you own the Jerome Biblical Commentary?
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    Should people who rip books out of the Bible burn in Hell?

    It is indeed a myth but it is not a protestant myth. It was Heinrich Graetz, a Jewish scholar, who first proposed the council of Jamnia theory concerning the O.T. canon in 1871. After Graetz, Frants Buhl, a contributor to the Jewish Encyclopedia, built upon his work. In 1964 it was Jack P...
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    O.T. quotes in the N.T.

    This is my fifth example. Matthew 9:13 ἔλεος θέλω καὶ οὐ θυσίαν I desire mercy and not sacrifice. Hosea 6:6 LXX ἔλεος θέλω ἢ θυσίαν I desire mercy rather than sacrifice. Hosea 6:6 כִּי חֶסֶד חָפַצְתִּי וְלֹא־זָבַח I desire mercy and not sacrifice. The difference between the Greek of the LXX...
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    US Senate's Decision To Impeach

    If Trump has been convicted the Democrats could have voted to disqualified him from holding federal office in the future. This would have prevented Trump from running again for president again in 2024 if he wanted, and it also would have barred him from running for the House or Senate.
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    Happy Septuagint Day

    Thank you sir. I am very happy you find this information helpful. Hopefully, soon as I have some time, I can post other examples in O.T. quotes in the N.T.
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    US Senate's Decision To Impeach

    The Senate vote was 57-43 and that means acquittal. Two thirds are needed to convict. Seven GOP senators voted against Trump.
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    Greetings and God's blessings to all!

    Hello and welcome
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    Happy Septuagint Day

    Since I truly believe in encouraging others to study the LXX, I thought I would post some other interesting facts. The LXX Daniel was not the preferred version of the church. For some reason LXX Daniel was rejected in favor of Theodotion's version. Jerome informs us: "I also wish to emphasize...
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    getting covid vaccine

    Received my first vaccination about two and a half hours ago, no problems. Second vaccination in 30 days.
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    Is Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday.

    No Greek lexicon or Greek grammars agree with above claims. For those of you who are really interested in this topic seek out scholarly sources, those who actually KNOW Greek. Dr. Mounce is a well respected Greek and N.T. scholar. (1) He has taught Greek for years. (2) He has written...
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    Hi there.

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