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    Purgatory

    Scripture distinguishes between sin that is mortal that which is not. If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God[a] will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 1All...
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    Purgatory

    More Scriptural Points for Purgatory Point 1 “And the Lord said, "Who then is the faithful and wise steward, whom his master will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the proper time? Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing. Truly, I say...
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    Not very sketchy hints in scripture. I gave you 9 scriptures in post #40 and 10 in post 47. Here are some more. Part 3 - Attachments Jesus dealt with the punishment for sin due to our offence against God. But when we sin we also damage ourselves because we fall into patterns of sin. Each time...
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    contd. Augustine "There is an ecclesiastical discipline, as the faithful know, when the names of the martyrs are read aloud in that place at the altar of God, where prayer is not offered for them. Prayer, however, is offered for other dead who are remembered. It is wrong to pray for a martyr...
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    Purgatory

    If it was know to the early church leaders, fleeting or not, then it was known well before the 15th century. Here are three very relevant quotes from Augustine Augustine "The man who has cultivated that remote land and who has gotten his bread by his very great labor is able to suffer this...
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    Purgatory

    Hi Josiah, My first point is that, unlike the Catholic Church, Orthodoxy is not one single set of doctrines. On some issues Orthodox have some different doctrines between the main divisions.# As I quoted in post #34 Orthodoxy Some Orthodox teach Aerial Toll-Houses regarding the souls journey...
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    Purgatory

    The Catholic Church did not invent Purgatory. It may have coined the name but not the concept. Purgatory is nothing like Limbo. Limbo has not been discarded as official Catholic teaching because it never was official Catholic teaching. It was a theological opinion of some to try to explain...
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    Purgatory

    I have shown you but you are ignoring what I said. What I wrote was "show a need for, and existence of, " You have ignored the "and existence of" The Catholic Church - not Roman Catholic Church - did not create it. Did you not read post #34? That is just silly. I see you are in to mockery...
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    Purgatory

    If you can't say why post #40 does not show a need for, and existence of, a process of purification then I'm not sure that anything will satisfy you. However for completeness I will move on to the next part of my argument. Part 2 Sanctification – becoming Holy Purgatory is about becoming...
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    Purgatory

    Well, yes he is a God who rewards but I don't see that it follows from our must being Holy to see God. I don't see Hebrews mentioning rewards. And what part of the points I have put forward so far do you disagree with? I haven't a clue what you mean by all that. what age of the gentiles...
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    Purgatory

    You've lost me there. I don't understand your point.
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    Purgatory

    I did offer to give a Catholic take on Purgatory in post #22 but no-one took it up. But since you ask..... First of all we need to appreciate that Purgatory is about purification and cleansing. Also, strictly , it's a process, a state of being, not a place. Part 1 (yes, there is more after...
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    Purgatory

    Temporal punishments are those that only last for a time, as opposed to eternal punishment which is forever. Although we use the word punishment it is perhaps better to regard it as God disciplining us for our own good, not as some sort of divine vengeance. “It is for discipline that you have...
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    Single or Taken?

    Married for 53 years next month.
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    Purgatory

    Although a priest may not explicitly mention Purgatory at a funeral Mass (and I see no reason why he should) the concept is there in the prayers that are made. If we believe that a person who has dies goes straight to heaven or hell then there is no point in praying for the dead. What would be...
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    Purgatory

    Although people here seem to think that Purgatory is a peculiar Catholic belief, the concept is not. Purgatory “early 13c., from M.L. purgatorium (St. Bernard, early 12c.), from L.L., "means of cleansing," prop. neut. of purgatorius (adj.) "purging, cleansing," from L. purgare (see purge).”...
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    Purgatory

    And what do you conclude from your experiences?
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    What do you use more?

    I have an old pay-as-you go mobile phone but I hardly ever use it. It probably belongs in a museum.:) I have a desktop PC which I uses for general work, forums, emails etc. I also have a tablet for doom scrolling! P.S. I don't do facebook, instagram, twitter etc. either. But then I'm very...
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    Purgatory

    Or maybe, as there is no time as we know it, he was comforting the grieving relatives . He would hardly say to them that the deceased would eventually get to heaven but at the moment he/she is probably suffering in purgatory.
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    Purgatory

    Perhaps the priest considered that the deceased had completed his/her "time" in Purgatory. :)
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