The arguments for Sunday

[MoreCoffee]

Whatever you choose to believe, it is obvious that you blindly follow the church

It appears that you're blindly following your own opinions. I do not see that as better than following God's Church. Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

 

[visionary]

If given the choice, would a thus saith the Lord over throw the traditions of your church in your mind and heart?

 

[MoreCoffee]

If given the choice, would a thus saith the Lord over throw the traditions of your church in your mind and heart?

If the Thus says the Lord came from some would-be prophet it would mean very little for the reasons I've stated in other threads. But there is no Thus says the Lord contained in the holy scriptures that speaks against the Church of God.

 

[visionary]

If the Thus says the Lord came from some would-be prophet it would mean very little for the reasons I've stated in other threads. But there is no Thus says the Lord contained in the holy scriptures that speaks against the Church of God.

There is tons of them from scripture.. but you will excuse them away with tradition... because the Church is infallible in your mind.

 

[MoreCoffee]

There is tons of them from scripture.. but you will excuse them away with tradition... because the Church is infallible in your mind.

The Church is many positive things according to holy scripture. Can you name any?

 

[psalms 91]

church, not denomination

 

[MoreCoffee]

church, not denomination

"Denomination" is non-Catholic idea. Catholics speak of the church.

 

[psalms 91]

This is not a catholic board and most here are not catholic so denomination is a good word and like it or not your church is just one of many denominations and you are no more right or wrong than most. It is good to know how you define something but dont assume that your definition is accepted or understood by all

 

[MoreCoffee]

This is not a catholic board and most here are not catholic so denomination is a good word and like it or not your church is just one of many denominations and you are no more right or wrong than most. It is good to know how you define something but dont assume that your definition is accepted or understood by all

I am a Catholic and choose my own vocabulary. You may speak of denominations meaning something different from my meaning. For me the denominations are those bodies that self-identify as denominations. The Catholic Church self-identifies as the church of God.

 

[psalms 91]

I am a Catholic and choose my own vocabulary. You may speak of denominations meaning something different from my meaning. For me the denominations are those bodies that self-identify as denominations. The Catholic Church self-identifies as the church of God.

So be it just so we know where the other is coming from

 

[visionary]

The Church is many positive things according to holy scripture. Can you name any?

Yes, but then you would stop there and say "SEE"... like these redeeming qualities cover the inefficiencies of lies, deceit, corruption, greed, sexual perversion, world domination intents, self righteous, Satanic rituals, etc.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, but then you would stop there and say "SEE"... like these redeeming qualities cover the inefficiencies of lies, deceit, corruption, greed, sexual perversion, world domination intents, self righteous, Satanic rituals, etc.

Yup

 

[visionary]

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yes, but then you would stop there and say "SEE"... like these redeeming qualities cover the inefficiencies of lies, deceit, corruption, greed, sexual perversion, world domination intents, self righteous, Satanic rituals, etc.

It's all politics with you then?

 

[visionary]

It's all politics with you then?

????? It is the faith of RCC that believes that the Pope is "god on earth" therefore world dominance is a right, in both worship and in allegiance.....

 

[MoreCoffee]

????? It is the faith of RCC that believes that the Pope is "god on earth" therefore world dominance is a right, in both worship and in allegiance.....

No, that is not a Catholic teaching. It may be something some deeply ignorant anti-catholic person imagines about Catholic teaching.

 

[psalms 91]

You do believe that the pope is infallible right? Seems to me you are splitting hairs in definition if thta is tha case

 

[visionary]

No, that is not a Catholic teaching. It may be something some deeply ignorant anti-catholic person imagines about Catholic teaching.

Wow.. you really do not know the doctrine of temporal power which is secular government. “The Vatican’s triple crown: church, government and state”, Concordat Watch. http://www.concordatwatch.eu/topic-823.843

 

[visionary]

Barack Obama earlier called Pope Francis “A moral leader in word and deed”. http://time.com/70826/pope-francis-2014-time-100/ Remember Barack Obama is a Muslim. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...can-council-and-papal-statements-on-islam.cfm

His “moral leader” has just put emphasis on the importance of keeping Sunday for the environment, for the poor and earlier also for families. Soon I believe we will see more of this development in emphasizing Sunday keeping. If you study Revelation 12 and 13, you will find that the first beast, the Catholic Church, and the second beast, Islam, will join hands, attempting to unite the whole world.

Revelation 13:15 “And he[the second beast] had power to give life unto the image of the beast [the first beast], that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”

As indicated by all the Presidents of the United States, they will cooperate with the Papacy, and “exercise all power” of it, and gather almost the whole world – except one group. I know that many have considered ISIS and Islam to be the beast, which it well could be but it has a whore riding her.

Rev 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the first beast], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

The Catholic Church have said: “Sunday is our mark of authority…the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Canada, September 1, 1923

The Bible says we need to keep God’s Sabbath Holy, the Seventh day. It never says to keep the first day of the week, Sunday. God calls the Sabbath a sign between Him and His people (Ezekiel 20:12)

Church and state will unite, and there will come a law enforcing Sunday observance all over the world. It will not be good for God's people who worship the Creator.

 

[psalms 91]

Barack Obama earlier called Pope Francis “A moral leader in word and deed”. http://time.com/70826/pope-francis-2014-time-100/ Remember Barack Obama is a Muslim. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...can-council-and-papal-statements-on-islam.cfm

His “moral leader” has just put emphasis on the importance of keeping Sunday for the environment, for the poor and earlier also for families. Soon I believe we will see more of this development in emphasizing Sunday keeping. If you study Revelation 12 and 13, you will find that the first beast, the Catholic Church, and the second beast, Islam, will join hands, attempting to unite the whole world.

Revelation 13:15 “And he[the second beast] had power to give life unto the image of the beast [the first beast], that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”

As indicated by all the Presidents of the United States, they will cooperate with the Papacy, and “exercise all power” of it, and gather almost the whole world – except one group. I know that many have considered ISIS and Islam to be the beast, which it well could be but it has a whore riding her.

Rev 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the first beast], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

The Catholic Church have said: “Sunday is our mark of authority…the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Canada, September 1, 1923

The Bible says we need to keep God’s Sabbath Holy, the Seventh day. It never says to keep the first day of the week, Sunday. God calls the Sabbath a sign between Him and His people (Ezekiel 20:12)

Church and state will unite, and there will come a law enforcing Sunday observance all over the world. It will not be good for God's people who worship the Creator.

Yes, there are many things coming and soon. I personally believe that whoever is elcted president will be the one that will bring about the final pieces in bringing this nation down