Mortal Sins...

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IT isn't their time to accept, because they have blinders on until the time of the gentiles be fulfilled. It is coming soon, and Messianic Judaism is rapidly growing faith of the modern day branch of Judaism that does accept Yeshua as the Messiah.
It's also growing because gentile believers pray for them and bind those powers that blind them and loose these people. There's always been a remnant and I don't believe God only gave that power to the Jews that accepted Him.
 

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He never gave those keys to anyone other than those of the Jewish faith, which is His faith... because most don't understand "halacha" which is the binding and loosening He is talking about.

Odd that you say that considering that Jews rejected Jesus and I can't think of any modern day branch of Judaism that accepts Jesus as Messiah so the claim that you make is self evidently false.

IT isn't their time to accept, because they have blinders on until the time of the gentiles be fulfilled. It is coming soon, and Messianic Judaism is rapidly growing faith of the modern day branch of Judaism that does accept Yeshua as the Messiah.

Then it is not their time to have the keys of the kingdom.

John 5:16 And this was why the Jews persecuted Jesus, because he did this on the sabbath.
 
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The it is not their time to have the keys of the kingdom.

John 5:16 And this was why the Jews persecuted Jesus, because he did this on the sabbath.

In Luke 21:24, Yeshua is speaking of future events, including the destruction of Jerusalem and His return. He says that “Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled” Paul also talked about it.

Romans 11:25 “A partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”

Daniel’s series of visions deals with Gentile world powers and their role in God’s plan for the earth. Nebuchadnezzar’s image of gold, silver, bronze, iron, and clay (Daniel 2:31–45) represents successive Gentile kingdoms that will dominate until Christ returns and establishes His reign. In each of these passages, the Gentiles have dominion over the world, including the Jewish people, for a time, but God will ultimately subdue them all and establish His Judaism kingdom once and for all. In Revelation 11:2, John indicates that Jerusalem will be under Gentile rule, even though the temple has been restored. The armies of the Beast are destroyed by the Lord in Revelation 19:17–19, just before the millennial reign of Christ is initiated. Notice that God never considered the Gentiles representative of His kingdom. While Israel had failed, God because of their faith in God's Judaism of faith, the Jewish Messiah, and the Jewish Bible, they are His chosen people....If these people didn't believe in Him like their ancestors did, the faith would not have been passed down. Remember the day is coming when the blinders will come off and they will cry.

Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.”

This prediction, that Israel will see someone whom they “pierced,” is amazing because it is God Himself speaking—the Lord is the One who is “pierced.” In Revelation 11:2, John indicates that Jerusalem will be under Gentile rule, even though the temple has been restored. The armies of the Beast are destroyed by the Lord in Revelation 19:17–19, just before the millennial reign of Christ is initiated. So the binders will come off at the end... which we are seeing as the blinders are being peeled off more and more of the people of Israel daily. This is when the first shall be last and the last shall be first. It is because the Jewish Messiah comes... and those who mourn at His coming were expecting another... like a Catholic version or something.

Revelation 1:7 adds, “Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him”
 

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Isn't this thread about mortal sin? So why all the end times speculations?
 

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Addressing posts... back to the OP
 

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Mortal sin.
I believe is a premeditated offense. Also a rejection of God's law and love.
Unfortunately some that profess Christ may be habitually enthralled in venial sin when iniquity is passed down through the generations.
Fellowship in the Spirit of Counsel is very important in helping one another.
 

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Yes we can strengthen our brothers
 

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Blasphemy—This grave sin is the uttering of hatred, reproach, defiance or speaking ill of God. Blasphemy against the Church, the saints and sacred things is also a grave sin (CCC 2148). It fails to give love and respect to our Creator. St. James speaks against sinners who "blaspheme the good name that is invoked upon you" (James 2:7).

It started out good which I highlighted in bold but then circled around the theology that RCC has cloaked as sacred.
 

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Yes sigh, everything on this site seems to revolve back to the RCC and then some wonder why we come aginst it rather than just blindly going along with it
 

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Yes sigh, everything on this site seems to revolve back to the RCC and then some wonder why we come aginst it rather than just blindly going along with it
It is a RCC site... we are just going over their statements
 

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CCT 2021 Objections Answered

CCT 2022 Should it be said, as some say, that the patronage of the Saints is unnecessary, because God hears our prayers without the intervention of a mediator, this impious assertion is easily met by the observation of St. Augustine: There are many things which God does not grant without a mediator and intercessor. This is confirmed by the well-known examples of Abimelech and the friends of Job who were pardoned only through the prayers of Abraham and of Job

CCT 2023 Should it be alleged that to recur to the patronage and intercession of the Saints argues want or weakness of faith, what will (the objectors) answer regarding the centurion whose faith was highly eulogised by the Lord God Himself, despite the fact that he had sent to the Redeemer the elders of the Jews, to intercede for his sick servant?

CCT 2024 True, there is but one Mediator, Christ the Lord, who alone has reconciled us to the heavenly Father through His blood, and who, having obtained eternal redemption, and having entered once into the holy of holies, ceases not to intercede for us. But it by no means follows that it is therefore unlawful to have recourse to the intercession of the Saints. If, because we have one Mediator Jesus Christ, it were unlawful to ask the intercession of the Saints, the Apostle would never have recommended himself with so much earnestness to the prayers of his brethren on earth. For the prayers of the living would lessen the glory and dignity of Christ's Mediatorship not less than the intercession of the Saints in heaven.​
 

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It is a RCC site... we are just going over their statements
This site is not RCC just one poster that continually brings up the RCC point of view quite often, in fact just about every thread but this site is not RCC
 

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CCT 2021 Objections Answered

CCT 2022 Should it be said, as some say, that the patronage of the Saints is unnecessary, because God hears our prayers without the intervention of a mediator, this impious assertion is easily met by the observation of St. Augustine: There are many things which God does not grant without a mediator and intercessor. This is confirmed by the well-known examples of Abimelech and the friends of Job who were pardoned only through the prayers of Abraham and of Job

CCT 2023 Should it be alleged that to recur to the patronage and intercession of the Saints argues want or weakness of faith, what will (the objectors) answer regarding the centurion whose faith was highly eulogised by the Lord God Himself, despite the fact that he had sent to the Redeemer the elders of the Jews, to intercede for his sick servant?

CCT 2024 True, there is but one Mediator, Christ the Lord, who alone has reconciled us to the heavenly Father through His blood, and who, having obtained eternal redemption, and having entered once into the holy of holies, ceases not to intercede for us. But it by no means follows that it is therefore unlawful to have recourse to the intercession of the Saints. If, because we have one Mediator Jesus Christ, it were unlawful to ask the intercession of the Saints, the Apostle would never have recommended himself with so much earnestness to the prayers of his brethren on earth. For the prayers of the living would lessen the glory and dignity of Christ's Mediatorship not less than the intercession of the Saints in heaven.​
Thoughts yes, scripture no.
 

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This site is not RCC just one poster that continually brings up the RCC point of view quite often, in fact just about every thread but this site is not RCC
I meant, the material of the first two posts of this OP was taken from an RCC site. Sorry about the confusion.
 

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CCT 2021 Objections Answered

CCT 2022 Should it be said, as some say, that the patronage of the Saints is unnecessary, because God hears our prayers without the intervention of a mediator, this impious assertion is easily met by the observation of St. Augustine: There are many things which God does not grant without a mediator and intercessor. This is confirmed by the well-known examples of Abimelech and the friends of Job who were pardoned only through the prayers of Abraham and of Job (Gen 20)

CCT 2023 Should it be alleged that to recur to the patronage and intercession of the Saints argues want or weakness of faith, what will (the objectors) answer regarding the centurion whose faith was highly eulogised by the Lord God Himself, despite the fact that he had sent to the Redeemer the elders of the Jews, to intercede for his sick servant? (Matt 7:10; Luke 7:3)

CCT 2024 True, there is but one Mediator, Christ the Lord, who alone has reconciled us to the heavenly Father through His blood, and who, having obtained eternal redemption, and having entered once into the holy of holies, ceases not to intercede for us (Heb 9:12; 7:25). But it by no means follows that it is therefore unlawful to have recourse to the intercession of the Saints. If, because we have one Mediator Jesus Christ, it were unlawful to ask the intercession of the Saints, the Apostle would never have recommended himself with so much earnestness to the prayers of his brethren on earth (Rom 15:30; Heb 13:18). For the prayers of the living would lessen the glory and dignity of Christ's Mediatorship not less than the intercession of the Saints in heaven.​

Thoughts yes, scripture no.

I am persuaded that including bible citations, as I have above, will be useless with persons who are unable to see beyond their own denomination - whose religion is so fixed that no truth can penetrate the buttresses they've built around it. But others read these posts so for their sake I've included them lest they be deceived by what the opposers say.
 

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I meant, the material of the first two posts of this OP was taken from an RCC site. Sorry about the confusion.
As mkost all his material is.
 

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You can not help someone unless you understand where they are coming from.
 

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Cant help someone who is closed either
 

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You know there is a saying that the harder they fight, the closer they are to seeing, hearing, and transforming.
 

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