World History and Palestine/Israel

[psalms 91]

God willing Israel and Palestine will make peace with each other.

They will not know peace, true peace till Christ returns

 

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Do you read revelation that talks of a false peace set up by antichrist for 3 and 1/2 years and then there is war and they are to the point of being overrun and then Christ returns. Doesnt sound like much peace there does it

Millennial ends times theories are wrong.

 

[psalms 91]

and what is yours?

 

[Alithis]

The Palestinians resident in the occupied territories are not permitted by Israeli law to become 'regular members of [Israeli] society" yet they are a source of cheap labour for many government enterprises and private businesses in Israel. It ought not to be the responsibility of the United Nations to pay for Palestinian relief and rebuilding after their homes and towns are bombed. But we, here in CH, are not in a position to correct the problems present in Israel and Palestine.

The palistinian residents in jerusalem ..can vote.. Thats about as equal as it gets.

 

[visionary]

The Palestinians resident in the occupied territories are not permitted by Israeli law to become 'regular members of [Israeli] society" yet they are a source of cheap labour for many government enterprises and private businesses in Israel. It ought not to be the responsibility of the United Nations to pay for Palestinian relief and rebuilding after their homes and towns are bombed. But we, here in CH, are not in a position to correct the problems present in Israel and Palestine.

Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Places under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority includes the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Israel can't stop them from developing since they are not in the land of Israel. East Jerusalem is the sector of Jerusalem that was not part of Israeli-held ... on the cessation of hostilities, the two countries secretly negotiated a division of the city, with the eastern sector coming under Jordanian rule.

 

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Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Places under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority includes the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Israel can't stop them from developing since they are not in the land of Israel. East Jerusalem is the sector of Jerusalem that was not part of Israeli-held ... on the cessation of hostilities, the two countries secretly negotiated a division of the city, with the eastern sector coming under Jordanian rule.

Did you watch the video in the first post?

 

[psalms 91]

Bottom line is that all the land is Israels and they made a huge mistake in giving the golan heights back or any territory for that matter

 

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Bottom line is that all the land is Israels and they made a huge mistake in giving the golan heights back or any territory for that matter

They did not give the Golan heights back.

 

[psalms 91]

Thought they did but seeing as how it is ued to lob rockets at them they should take it

 

[Alithis]

Thought they did but seeing as how it is ued to lob rockets at them they should take it

I get quite confused by the geography of it ..but perhaps you mean the hills from gaza in the south of israel by the coast close to egypts border.?
The Golan hieghts border i think with syria in the north and for military defense it is a demiliterized zone..any incusion onto it by militry force is veiwed as invasion and met with force of war.... As i understand it

 

[Alithis]

Gaza is the high small stretch of land descending to the sea.it is historicly (in davids time)the land of the philistines.whom God wiped out.the ruins of thier cities are by the seashore to this day.just as foretold.
The syrian,jordanian,lebenon,and arababic nomads and travelers that settled in the land of israel during thier absence later got caught up in the aftermath of ww2 .the arab nations told them to leave the districts and after they murder the new nation of israel anniahilate were thier words)they could all go back and have the land.what resulted was the 6 day war..
Now all those people groups were homless and the arab nations who could have absorbed all those refugees refused to take them.it is these groups of peoples lumped together who became known as "the palastinians.
Israel allowed them to resettle in gaza and the other areas in an unsteady truce to this day which has been marred by extremisim and terrorist acts.And is used mostly external groups as a battle ground where those pushing hatred of israel can do so without thier own homes being bombed.the anti israel groups treat the palastinans as fodder and care nothing for them.
israel knows what it is to be a displaced peopl. And pours astounding amounts of aid into gaza.
Yes when rockets are fired from the hills and towns in gaza they deal with them as they MUST.they are fired indiscriminatly at israeli towns and cities.
But the rest of the time vast amounts of aid is poured..by israel,into gaza and the world media never reports it.there is utter bias in arab oil funded media outlets in the world.

.if a palistinian falls and hurts his leg in israel..he is taken to hospital..if a jew fell and hurt himself in gaza..he risks being beaten to death.
Yet still israel pours aid in and gives the highest level of medical aid to Anyone without discrimination.
They do this out of compassion .because they know what it is to be a displaced and homless people.

So many rant against that small nation..but a few of us will rant for it.
Having spoken from time to time with inhabitants of israel..and having asked them about how they feel about palistinians..i was surprised by the gentle nature of thier replies.. They said "they too need somewhere to live and raise children"
In a land where extremists have fired ,since 2005,some 11,000 rockets into israel..it is not the response i expected to hear.

 

[Rens]

Well, the US contributes quite a lot towards the budget and donanteed the land the UN is built on. Far to long we have been the worlds peacekeepers, it is time for others to step up and quit blaming the US for not stepping in places

No I think you should do everything. We Dutch like to have a laid back lifestyle.

 

[psalms 91]

No I think you should do everything. We Dutch like to have a laid back lifestyle.

lol I think that the world is going to have to get used to us not doing that

 

[Alithis]

Sadly i think more has been done for profit and against peace.
I wonder what an analysis of conflicts youve been involved in would show .how many involvements were for profit .hmm
..peace keepers? Loose term i guess

 

[Rens]

lol I think that the world is going to have to get used to us not doing that

Very smart.

 

[psalms 91]

Sadly i think more has been done for profit and against peace.
I wonder what an analysis of conflicts youve been involved in would show .how many involvements were for profit .hmm
..peace keepers? Loose term i guess

Ask those in Bosnia for one

 

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Ask those in Bosnia for one

I had a family of Bosnian Muslim refugees stay in one of my properties during the conflict there in the 1990s. Good people. Mother, father, and daughter.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes and I met a woman that grew up in that and the horrors she witnessed and went through.