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Indeed she is. Mary is the mother of God the Son and since God the Son is God blessed Mary is the mother of God. Yet you find it so hard to say. You'd rather deny it than admit the evident truth of it so you add the peculiar heretical view of the Holy Trinity and the incarnation of the Word that the rest of your post contains.
Actually, Full O Beans BOTH admitted the two affirmations as true AND declared them to be wrong and blasphemy (and thus declared his/her own positions to be wrong and blasmphemy). It cannot be BOTH true that Mary bore Jesus who is God AND that it's wrong and blasphemy that Mary bore Jesus who is God. I suspect all (above all Full of Beans) knows this.
I've participated in DOZENS of threads at DOZENS of websites on this title over the past 15 years or so. Never before have I found folks insisting that the affirmations of this title are BOTH true and blasphemy, so obviously shooting themselves in the foot. In fact, USUALLY the issue is not whether these things are true or false, but rather whether the title can be confusing - but here, this time, Full O Beans is insisting these affirmations are BOTH true (affirmed, verbatim, by Full O Beans his/herself) AND blasphemy, wrong, horrible, condemnable, of the devil. The very same two points. THAT'S something I've never encountered before.
Yeah, there are still a few very unorthodox folks denying Scripture, the Council of Nicea, the Council of Chaladon, and holding to the heresy of Arianism - denying the divinity of Jesus. And that's popped up in this thread. But ultimately, I suspect Full o Beans abandoned that and returned to orthodox Christianity affirming His divinity, even flating saying Jesus IS God. Of course, if one denies that very fundamental belief, they will reject this title since that affirming IS one of the two of the title. I've not yet met anyone holding to the position that someone other than Mary bore Jesus, but of course that would be the other affirmation in the title.
I think sometimes, folks reject the two points they insist are TRUE because it's Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican and Lutherans affirming these two things (they insist are both true).... because it comes from the mouths/pens of Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, Anglicans and Lutherans, it MUST be rebuked (even if they insist what they are saying is true). We may have a case of that here???
But I think sometimes what happens is that they just don't READ the title. In stead of the title, in lieu of what it says, in place of what it affirms, they substitute OTHER things. Created/invented strawmen of their own wild imaginations. Then have fun rebuking their own created (silly) strawmen such as "Mary - Creator of the Creator" or "Mary - Originator of the Trinity" or other equally weird (and obviously wrong) substitutions. Sure, it's easy to condemn a silly thing like, "Mary - Mother of the Trinity" but then no one on the planet Earth, no one alive have EVER used that title; it's not the title we're discussing, it's a silly strawman of their OWN creation they have chosen to subsitute for the title we're discussing. It all goes away the minute they actually READ THE WORDS, realize WHAT is being affirmed: Mary bore Jesus (Luke 2:1-7, etc. etc.) and Jesus may rightly be called GOD (John 20:28, Philippians 2:6, etc., etc.). You know, the two things Full O Beans BOTH insisted are true AND insists are blasphemy, wrong, satanic.
A most unusual thread.
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