Why was Mary necessary?

[Full O Beans]

Elizabeth referred to Mary as the Mother of my Lord.

Pretty much ends it for me.

Righto. Mary was the mother of her own Lord, also.

 

[Tigger]

Righto. Mary was the mother of her own Lord, also.

Of course but that doesn't change anything.

 

[Alithis]

Of course but that doesn't change anything.

doesnt hive her the title mother of God either.

 

[Full O Beans]

Of course but that doesn't change anything.

I don't understand. Who is trying to change something? Jesus is the Son. In His appearance as a human being, as the Lamb of God, He had chosen to come as man. So, Mary is truly the mother of the Son, the man, Jesus. It is a misleading and religious notion to call her the mother of God, as the term really is a Catholic one that attempts to elevate her position beyond what she really is. We must be always careful about what we accept, for we can be deceived by ideas of religious men, that might sound good, but really serve to deceive, as the RCC has done much harm to Christianity by elevating the woman to almost the Godhead.

 

[Tigger]

I don't understand. Who is trying to change something? Jesus is the Son. In His appearance as a human being, as the Lamb of God, He had chosen to come as man. So, Mary is truly the mother of the Son, the man, Jesus. It is a misleading and religious notion to call her the mother of God, as the term really is a Catholic one that attempts to elevate her position beyond what she really is. We must be always careful about what we accept, for we can be deceived by ideas of religious men, that might sound good, but really serve to deceive, as the RCC has done much harm to Christianity by elevating the woman to almost the Godhead.

Jesus wasn't only 'man' though. Remember John 1:14 the 'Word' dwelt among us.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Mary is the mother of God because her son is Jesus Christ and he is God. It's all so simple. Makes one wonder why people are so hung up about it.

 

[Full O Beans]

Jesus wasn't only 'man' though. Remember Johm 1:14 the 'Word' dwelt among us.

Right, but Mary was chosen by God to carry, give birth to, and raise His human Son. She is Jesus' mom. That was her role. Period.

 

[Full O Beans]

Mary is the mother of God because her son is Jesus Christ and he is God. It's all so simple. Makes one wonder why people are so hung up about it.

Actually the RCC is hung up on its own dogma. Elevating Mary beyond her role to pretty much equating the Godhead is something they've added that assuages the religious drive of people to worship more than they have a right to.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Actually the RCC is hung up on its own dogma. Elevating Mary beyond her role to pretty much equating the Godhead is something they've added that assuages the religious drive of people to worship more than they have a right to.

You like to offer your opinions as if they were important truths. The fact is that all of the ancient churches confess Blessed Mary as the the mother of God.

 

[Alithis]

Jesus wasn't only 'man' though. Remember Johm 1:14 the 'Word' dwelt among us.

so did God die ?


NOPE .

the man JESUS did .. the man whom mary is the mother of .

iv asked others but no one actuely replies

for what purpose is mary given that title since God did not give it nor ever will . ?
what is to be gained ?
why the persistence in it ?
should we not be more concerned with glorifying the LOrd jesus ?

The apostles never saw for to mention it in ANY of the thier epistles to the congregations throughout the evangelized world ..
no only a group with its own agenda, an agenda opposed to the truth of the lord JEsus saw fit to introduce a title that GOD NEVER gave .

and why ? because when we read of mary and all that describes her in the scripture (which is not a lot ) and then we read of the mary of the RCC -we see plainly .. we are not speaking of the same person .


the mary of the bible is NOT called the mother of GOD
the mary of the bible is NOT the queen of heaven
the mary of the bible is NOT born devine having no sin
the mary of the bible is NOT a perpetual virgin
the mary of the bible is NOT a co-mediator ...

so this mary they speak of ,is a different person then the mary in the Holy scripture .. she is a moon goddess of pagan times dating back to nimrods mother .. the mother of the "sun" god -do the research .
(given a variance of names over the ages including queen of heaven) -that is who the rcc is describing with all those titles.
that is why NONE of those titles are in the scriptures . because (all)scripture is given by inspiration of the Holy Ghost .. and none of those titles originate in God .

 

[Alithis]

You like to offer your opinions as if they were important truths. The fact is that all of the ancient churches confess Blessed Mary as the the mother of God.

untrue . a few did and even less do now .the apostles never did .

 

[MoreCoffee]

so did God die ?


NOPE .
...

Really?

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit; in which he went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.
(1 Peter 3:18-22)

 

[MoreCoffee]

untrue . a few did and even less do now .the apostles never did .

The Catholic Church does, it has 1/2 of all Christians, the Orthodox do, The Coptic Orthodox do, the Oriental Orthodox do .... all of the ancient churches confess Jesus as God and Mary as his mother.

 

[Full O Beans]

You like to offer your opinions as if they were important truths. The fact is that all of the ancient churches confess Blessed Mary as the the mother of God.

That is a lie based on the opinion of the RCC, who has indoctrinated ypu. Totally unscriptural.

 

[MoreCoffee]

That is a lie based on the opinion of the CC, who has indoctrinated you. Totally unscriptural.

Holy scripture says that Jesus is God and holy scripture says that Mary is the mother of Jesus hence Mary is the mother of God. You can complain all you like but the facts are the facts and Mary is the mother of Jesus who is God.

 

[Full O Beans]

The Catholic Church does, it has 1/2 of all Christians, the Orthodox do, The Coptic Orthodox do, the Oriental Orthodox do .... all of the ancient churches confess Jesus as God and Mary as his mother.

The most ancient Church of all...the Body of Christ, of which I am a member, has not ever taught this or even hinted at it. It's a concoction of errant, religious men.

 

[Full O Beans]

Holy scripture says that Jesus is God and holy scripture says that Mary is the mother of Jesus hence Mary is the mother of God. You can complain all you like but the facts are the facts and Mary is the mother of Jesus who is God.

Where is such a title given in scripture? Why do you hold so dear to it?

 

[MoreCoffee]

The most ancient Church of all

Yes, the Catholic Church, founded by the Lord Jesus Christ built on the apostles and prophets with Christ himself as the chief corner stone, is the most ancient Christian Church. The one holy Catholic an apostolic church.

...the Body of Christ, of which I am a member, has not ever taught this or even hinted at it. It's a concoction of errant, religious men.

You haven't read the Creed of Chalcedon have you? If you had then you'd know that the Church has always taught that Mary is the mother of Jesus and that Jesus is God and that therefore Blessed Mary is the mother of God.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Where is such a title given in scripture? Why do you hold so dear to it?

Go back and read some of my previous posts, I quoted the passages. I'll cite them now. John 1:1, 14, 18; Acts 1:14.

 

[Full O Beans]

The RCC might be old, but it is a religion apart from true Christianity, and is NOT the Church of Jesus Christ. Jesus never established it. It never emerged on the scene until early in the 4th century.