Did Christ die for them that are perishing ?

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It made them Righteous or Justified !

Many today in false religion do deny that Christ's Death alone, in and of itself, for those He died in behalf of, that it constituted them Righteous or Justified. However that is exactly what Rom 5:19 teaches Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The One here in the second section is Jesus Christ, and the obedience is His Death as Per Phil 2:8

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

His Obedience is His Death of the Cross. Now pay attention to its sure effects, it made many Righteous, which is to be Justified. The word Justified in scripture : The greek word dikaioo:


to render righteous or such he ought to be

2) to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

So His Death, His Obedience will show many to be made Righteous.

The word made in Rom 5:19 is the word kathistēmi:

to set, place, put

a) to set one over a thing (in charge of it)

b) to appoint one to administer an office

c) to set down as, constitute, to declare, show to be

d) to constitute, to render, make, cause to be

e) to conduct or bring to a certain place

f) to show or exhibit one's self

1) come forward as


So, this is an accomplishment of the Death of Chris alone, for the Many He died for, all of them.

To deny this effect and result of the Sole Death of Christ is denying Christ, its against Christ !

Everyone Christ died for is declared Righteous, which also means they have Christ's Righteousness Imputed to them.

All for whom He died have His Complete Obedience as The Son of God in the flesh charged to their account, just as their sins and demerit were charged to His Account. 14
 

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It saves from the power of sin.

One of the accomplishments of the Death of Christ for all whom He died, is that He saves them from the power of sin. To be saved from the power of sin is to be also saved from unbelief, yes unbelief in one is because the power of sin is reigning in them. They are while in unbelief under the power of darkness Col 1:13

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Or from the domain or authority of darkness. As such are minds are blinded from believing the Gospel 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

That word for blindness actually means to darken the mind, which is part of the power of darkness. Before we can believe we must be delivered from this power and Christ's Death accomplishes that, Redemption.14
 

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It made them Righteous or Justified !

Many today in false religion do deny that Christ's Death alone, in and of itself, for those He died in behalf of, that it constituted them Righteous or Justified. However that is exactly what Rom 5:19 teaches Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The One here in the second section is Jesus Christ, and the obedience is His Death as Per Phil 2:8

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

His Obedience is His Death of the Cross. Now pay attention to its sure effects, it made many Righteous, which is to be Justified. The word Justified in scripture : The greek word dikaioo:


to render righteous or such he ought to be

2) to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

So His Death, His Obedience will show many to be made Righteous.

The word made in Rom 5:19 is the word kathistēmi:

to set, place, put

a) to set one over a thing (in charge of it)

b) to appoint one to administer an office

c) to set down as, constitute, to declare, show to be

d) to constitute, to render, make, cause to be

e) to conduct or bring to a certain place

f) to show or exhibit one's self

1) come forward as


So, this is an accomplishment of the Death of Chris alone, for the Many He died for, all of them.

To deny this effect and result of the Sole Death of Christ is denying Christ, its against Christ !

Everyone Christ died for is declared Righteous, which also means they have Christ's Righteousness Imputed to them.

All for whom He died have His Complete Obedience as The Son of God in the flesh charged to their account, just as their sins and demerit were charged to His Account. 14
Your first sentence threw me off, @brightfame52. What are you denying and what are you saying? You need to follow Paul's whole argument in this chapter to get his full meaning. Also, you keep saying things about all those "for whom Christ died." Are you saying that Christ died for everyone and that therefore all people are declared righteous and justified? You might just answer this question yes or no to be clear.
 

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Your first sentence threw me off, @brightfame52. What are you denying and what are you saying? You need to follow Paul's whole argument in this chapter to get his full meaning. Also, you keep saying things about all those "for whom Christ died." Are you saying that Christ died for everyone and that therefore all people are declared righteous and justified? You might just answer this question yes or no to be clear.
I can tell you haven't paid a bit of attention to my threads and posts asking questions like that.
 

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I can tell you haven't paid a bit of attention to my threads and posts asking questions like that.
I don't have time to read all the posts in all the threads in the three forums I'm in, because God has also given me a ministry writing books, @brightfame52. I haven't seen your "yes" or "no."
 

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Saved from God's Wrath !

1 Jn 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The whole world [jew and gentile people] here is a propitiated world, and as such, they have been saved from God's Wrath through Christ's Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Rom 3:25

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

All who Christ's Blood propitiated God's wrath for or in behalf of, are given Faith in His Blood.

His Blood has saved them from wrath. It has delivered them from going down into the pit Zech 9:11

As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.
 

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I don't have time to read all the posts in all the threads in the three forums I'm in, because God has also given me a ministry writing books, @brightfame52. I haven't seen your "yes" or "no."
Then I dont have time to answer your questions, which things have already been discussed in my posts.
 
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