Imalive
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Yes, DHoffmann, jumps back and forth. When I address the claim he makes that repentance is required for salvation and show that it is not, then he switches to after salvation, which I have always stated is an effect that comes after salvation.
Bottom line:
No works are required from God for God to extend unmerited favor. It is God's choice, always. Requiring repentance for salvation to be extended means that grace is removed and a merit-based salvation is created. That is never taught, despite the misuse of Acts 2 to state that repentance comes before salvation. Very simply, spiritually dead persons cannot repent until God makes their spirit come to life.
People can depart from the faith. Demas left.
Gods love is not unconditional. If someone is saved and the fruit is good and later they get false grace teaching and fall in unforgiveness or whatever, they have to repent or they're not saved.