Theology thread.

[popsthebuilder]

No.

The Spirit is Sovereign and can do as it wills. What is revealed to us by special revelation is found in the Bible. The Bible, therefore, is the standard means of measurement to discern if the Holy Spirit is communicating or if an unholy spirit is counterfeiting.

Then what did you find silly about his response or post?

 

[MennoSota]

Then what did you find silly about his response or post?

I think it's self explanatory. MoreCoffee is struggling to see how 2 Timothy 3:16 and Hebrews 4:12 are referring to the word of God, which is the Bible. He is working hard to twist a pretzel. That makes me laugh.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I think it's self explanatory. MoreCoffee is struggling to see how 2 Timothy 3:16 and Hebrews 4:12 are referring to the word of God, which is the Bible. He is working hard to twist a pretzel. That makes me laugh.

But you just agreed that the Word isn't limited to scripture, but is verified through it.

 

[MennoSota]

But you just agreed that the Word isn't limited to scripture, but is verified through it.

I'm not following your twist.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I'm not following your twist.

First you said the word of GOD was limited to the Bible, then you said it isn't but is verified by the Bible.

I do see one person twisting and contorting, bit it isn't me.... or him.

 

[Albion]

There is no "sacred" tradition.

Very well, but I was referring to what THEY consider to be Sacred Tradition. It wasn't an endorsement on my part.

The Roman Church manufactures a "sacred" tradition in the very same fashion that Muslims manufacture Muhammad in the Bible.

(sigh)

 

[MennoSota]

First you said the word of GOD was limited to the Bible, then you said it isn't but is verified by the Bible.

I do see one person twisting and contorting, bit it isn't me.... or him.

You struggle with this.
God speaks through his word. There is no other revelation given to us. That said, the Spirit of God is still actively working in the world.

Do you say that God is still inspiring new words? That's a Mormon belief and s Muslim belief.

 

[Albion]

So you believe faith to be ineffectual...

So....perhaps the problem is that you read my post too quickly.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You struggle with this.
God speaks through his word. There is no other revelation given to us. That said, the Spirit of God is still actively working in the world.

Do you say that God is still inspiring new words? That's a Mormon belief and s Muslim belief.

Friend; you aren't actually addressing what I posed and I will never say GOD is change.

Inspiring new words? What do you mean?

Generally Islam believes that Mohhamed was the last prophet and that there is no new revelation beyond that. Why do you keep mentioning Islam?

It seems to me that you aren't interested so much in speaking about theology and scripture, but rather interject your opinions about others and whole faiths. Neither of which is ever spoken highly of within our sacred text or theirs.

 

[popsthebuilder]

So....perhaps the problem is that you read my post too quickly.

I've read it repeatedly; your contention does not agree with scripture to me.

Perhaps you could provide some references and we can discuss them.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Do you think the Holy Spirit only communicates, guides, comforts, and chastens through scripture alone?

If so could you please provide the scripture to show such?

I thought that was what we were doing.

I thought that was what the thread was about too - stating doctrine from what is clearly taught in holy scripture. Perhaps that was not the intention?

 

[MennoSota]

The Bible is clear in both 2 Timothy and Hebrews. I find it funny to see people deny God's word in scripture and then want more. I especially find the concept of "sacred tradition" oddly humorous and sad at the same time.
The concept is really a political propaganda ploy to keep people from questioning bad tradition.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The Bible is clear in both 2 Timothy and Hebrews. I find it funny to see people deny God's word in scripture and then want more. I especially find the concept of "sacred tradition" oddly humorous and sad at the same time.
The concept is really a political propaganda ploy to keep people from questioning bad tradition.

Where's the bible passage for your doctrine?

 

[Andrew]

I got a question. What book chapter and verse falls directly in the center of our Bible? Off of the top of my head I would think somewhere along Psalms...

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[MoreCoffee]

I got a question. What book chapter and verse falls directly in the center of our Bible? Off of the top of my head I would think somewhere along Psalms...

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That depends on how many canonical books are in your bible

 

[Andrew]

That depends on how many canonical books are in your bible

I knew that would come up lol

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[ImaginaryDay2]

I do not see St. Peter placing himself over any.

Then what would you say this means? I'm at a loss.

Now as an elder myself and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as one who shares in the glory to be revealed, I exhort the elders among you 2 to tend the flock of God that is in your charge, exercising the oversight, not under compulsion but willingly, as God would have you do it--not for sordid gain but eagerly. 3 Do not lord it over those in your charge, but be examples to the flock.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Then what would you say this means? I'm at a loss.

Now as an elder myself and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as one who shares in the glory to be revealed, I exhort the elders among you 2 to tend the flock of God that is in your charge, exercising the oversight, not under compulsion but willingly, as God would have you do it--not for sordid gain but eagerly. 3 Do not lord it over those in your charge, but be examples to the flock.

A teacher is not a superior.

All are equal

The elder is to serve the youth and guide them to the truth.

It was never my intent to say that there are no teachers, but if actual teachers then they would consider themselves as servants and not lords.


Morecoffee put it well I think; he said:

"ruling over is the worldly way, ruling by service is the Christian way. Ruling over is demanding others perform tasks as directed. Ruling by service is inviting people to bring their gifts to the common good and use them to benefit all in the places where they are most needed and most useful. Those who rule by service help others to use their gifts in the right places and right ways."

Which I agree with.

 

[MennoSota]

Where's the bible passage for your doctrine?

The entire Bible. Pick it up and read it so God can talk to you through it.

 

[MennoSota]

I got a question. What book chapter and verse falls directly in the center of our Bible? Off of the top of my head I would think somewhere along Psalms...

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It depends on how the books are placed. If you are following a chronological Bible you'll find Esther and Nehemiah near the end of the Old Testament.