The Official Chat Thread - Part 3

[Stravinsk]

I still see some of the other videos that had graphic content on there for Charlottesville. I think one of your enemies reported you, Strav.

It's hard to know and not possible to be certain who because it's not included in the violation. However, if it's a fellow youtuber I have a few ideas and while I'm not going to point a finger blindly, my guess is that it's someone who really wants to be famous but who is too dull, drab, dumb and vain to get any kind of serious attention for the equivalent of batting their eyelashes/flexing their muscles than possibly a few lovesick loverboys(girls).

That being said, it's pointless to speculate. Like I said - a few other youtubers had their content removed in far less time than mine because it was closer to the event and emotions were running high.

 

[Lamb]

I can't recall if you did any name calling that would be considered bullying in your video, Strav.

 

[Stravinsk]

I can't recall if you did any name calling that would be considered bullying in your video, Strav.

It seems I've been targeted. Either by a user or users or by policy, ever since my Charlottesville video that was getting thousands of views and 90% likes even with my 0 subs at the time. The speed at which my last video was taken down (no violations on this one either) says to me it was likely by a youtube staff person - since besides my own views, it only got 1 view and was quickly removed. Means my channel has been targeted. Youtube has demonitized thousands of videos of late (all kinds) and taken a heavy censorship hand with the Charlottesville stuff(none of my videos were ever monitized). The free speech censorship is extending to other services and some web pages are being threatened with de-listing their page from search results if they don't change some of their content. That's the evil power behind the near monopoly this search engine has.

I suspect that just about anything I upload will be cited as breaking one of their rules at this point. So I'll have to start a new channel. I've been looking at a few other block chain services that are, or seem to be, censorship free. There's good and bad in that, of course.

 

[Lamb]

It seems I've been targeted. Either by a user or users or by policy, ever since my Charlottesville video that was getting thousands of views and 90% likes even with my 0 subs at the time. The speed at which my last video was taken down (no violations on this one either) says to me it was likely by a youtube staff person - since besides my own views, it only got 1 view and was quickly removed. Means my channel has been targeted. Youtube has demonitized thousands of videos of late (all kinds) and taken a heavy censorship hand with the Charlottesville stuff(none of my videos were ever monitized). The free speech censorship is extending to other services and some web pages are being threatened with de-listing their page from search results if they don't change some of their content. That's the evil power behind the near monopoly this search engine has.

I suspect that just about anything I upload will be cited as breaking one of their rules at this point. So I'll have to start a new channel. I've been looking at a few other block chain services that are, or seem to be, censorship free. There's good and bad in that, of course.

Wow. I've never uploaded any videos there thankfully! What other sites are there besides vimeo?

 

[Stravinsk]

Wow. I've never uploaded any videos there thankfully! What other sites are there besides vimeo?

As far as I know, vimeo is not a blockchain network. If it can be bought and sold, then it can become part of the banking/corporate octopus just like any other alternative hosting service can. A lot of people were worried when Google bought out Youtube, and rightfully so. The policies and their implementation are more and more reflecting what those on top of the corporate chain want.

There are a few start ups out there that are implementing a hosting service that is a lot harder to take over (and thus censor if control is grasped). Bit-chute (no hypen - text was *'d for some reason) is one. There are others. Of course - largely uncensored networks have their drawbacks. Namely - material that people may find offensive or immoral. That is generally the price that has to be paid to have access to a network where it's even possible to view content that might be otherwise unfairly or unduly censored by the corporate/banking octopus.

 

[Imalive]

I didn't know they removed video's. Mine are still on it. Fabulous movies from rabbits. One kid responded that it was a dumb video LOL.

 

[Lamb]

I didn't know they removed video's. Mine are still on it. Fabulous movies from rabbits. One kid responded that it was a dumb video LOL.

That kid was a troll!! Did you report him? LOL

 

[Stravinsk]

I didn't know they removed video's. Mine are still on it. Fabulous movies from rabbits. One kid responded that it was a dumb video LOL.

Image not altered except for resizing. If you look at the thread on Charlottesville here on CH where I posted a link to my video (http://christianityhaven.com/showthread.php?4191-White-Nationalists-rally-State-of-Emergency-in-Virginia&p=102570#post102570 - and click to watch it on Youtube it will say "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy on harassment and bullying"

Anyway, there are still Charlottesville videos up that challenge the official narrative. Some are better than others, some are with new accounts created in just the last month (users who already have had the channels violated out of existence I suspect), and some content doesn't stay up for long (such seems to be the case with the shot of the men who appear to be directing the car crash *scene*) - or if it does - it hasn't been found by the censors yet.

My video isn't flawless - guess I just hit too many of the right soft spots in it. Over 7k views with over 90% likes in just 2 weeks with a 0 subscriber starting count indicates that.

If you research it - Youtube has been demonitizing several of the bigger channels content (or some of it) for a few years now, without explanation. They aren't doing that with corporate news - but alternative and independent news and reporting. Seeing as the same banks and corporations own Google/Youtube as the "mainstream media" (generally speaking) - this isn't a big surprise. The big TV broadcasting organizations have probably seen the independents on youtube as a threat for a long time.

 

[Stravinsk]

Regarding this thread:

http://www.christianityhaven.com/showthread.php?4340-end-of-the-world-happening-this-coming-Saturday

I couldn't find one response in it that would actually dissuade a believer in the theory. Not that I am, but after reading the article (that misrepresents the position in the very title) and seeing a bunch of people mock it - I looked it up. Here is the theory in 3 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jYgoX4NL7g

So it appears everyone who responded to the thread would just point a finger to the believer in this theory and laugh. No one apparently has anything beyond that. Which leads me to think very few people here have an understanding of Revelation 12 that would convert someone out of their (apparent) stupidity and gullibility by believing it.

The first thing I would point out is that in order for the interpretation to be correct - the sign of the dragon must also appear in the heavens, and a 3rd of the stars has to fall from heaven after the event. Not only fall from heaven - but fall from heaven to earth. Now if you believe you're on a spinning globe in outer space and the stars are trillions of light years away - you might as well call yourself an unbeliever (at least in Revelation) - because that is what you are. The only way stars are going to fall to the earth is if the flat/stationary model is correct - not the heliocentric model. So rip up Revelations 12, Christians - and receive ye the plagues thereof, bible believers.

Given everything - the seed of the woman, the living stars, the male child caught up to heaven, the fact that Lucifer is not "now" cast down (Rev 12:10), but according to Yeshua - has been cast down long before this - then this passage must span a much longer span than the video's interpretation begs. Few people know this - but stars in the bible aren't "suns" like our Sun - they are living beings (sons of God) - and it is quite possible they were the original Nephilim - the fallen angels spoken of in Genesis.

While the video is interesting and entertaining - it must account for everything in the passage - not just what is isolated and interpreted.

Taken in context, with everything, it is unlikely what is presented is a heralded event - but rather a vast history condensed into a chapter using both real and symbolic imagery.

 

[Stravinsk]

Now this is interesting.

I've long preached a diet higher in unprocessed foods, whole foods and less animal products. However, I've never completely given up all animal products myself until recently (hmm, except honey though). But otherwise, out went the small amount of dairy I was having with my coffee (it was the only dairy I ate - as I dislike cheese and don't drink cow milk otherwise) - and I haven't eaten any animal flesh in days - and no eggs either. Vegan aside from the honey I eat.

Couple things noticed. Deodorant not needed. I've also noticed bowel movements aren't stinky - as I was wondering today why I have this habit of flipping on the fan.

I also have increased energy and my sense of smell seems to have improved as well.

I've lost weight. 3 Kilos just this week. Still a fair amount to lose as I gained a fair bit over Aussie winter.

Strav approves of these changes.

 

[Romanos]

Good afternoon!

 

[Josiah]

Good morning!

 

[psalms 91]

Hello

 

[NewCreation435]

I picked 21 ripe tomatoes off a tomatoe plant that I didn't even plant that surprisingly has grown up right between two rose bushes. I'm thinking maybe a bird dropped some seed there. Anyway, still have plenty of green tomatoes not ready yet to be picked. I made a salad with many of them.
Just have to be careful to watch for thorns from the rose bushes when reaching for them.

 

[Stravinsk]

Sometimes I must admit I have my naive moments...

A local butcher in a shopping center I shop at sells "veggie burgers". I think probably he doesn't even make them - they have similar ingredients than ones I've seen before in the supermarket. Nothing bad - but not something that is going to fill a person up or provide all that much nutrition in the form of vitamins, minerals and protein - the first and main ingredient is of course - potato. Nothing wrong with them I could see - just not something that could really replace the amount of protein, zinc and certain B vitamins found in meat.

So in the back of my mind I was thinking..."Hmm - Strav, you could take samples of your homemade burger for this guy to sample, and show how much more nutrient dense it is than the veggie burger he's offering, and how tasty too. Maybe he'll be interested in the recipe. You could charge him for it. Think big, Strav..."

Lol. Yes, I actually entertained that thought for a while. Until it dawned on me:

If I owned and operated a meat store - would I have any interest at all in a well prepared, tasty, filling and nutritious veggie burger?

And then I had to admit that the answer is "absolutely not". After all - the ingredients used are very easy to source and very cheap - beans, seeds, flour, various spices. Not many people in the suburbs own pigs, cattle, chickens (well a few, but darn few) - and many wouldn't if they could - too much trouble, smell etc. But these ingredients - I bet a lot of people would just grow them in their yards. No smell. Free, easy food.

And then I thought - Strav - a smart Butcher would absolutely not be interested in a great veggie burger that could actually replace his meat. He would much rather support the rather un-tasty, un-filling, and not very nutrient dense "veggie burger" he's already offering. Yes, he wants people to buy the "healthy" option - and then he wants to see them come back and buy his meat because they were still hungry and ...

You see where I'm going with this, Strav? You see?

Yes, I see.

Now, maybe a vegan restaurant might be interested...

Don't be silly. We live in the internet age you ...you....

ok! ok!

 

[Lamb]

Sometimes I must admit I have my naive moments...

A local butcher in a shopping center I shop at sells "veggie burgers". I think probably he doesn't even make them - they have similar ingredients than ones I've seen before in the supermarket. Nothing bad - but not something that is going to fill a person up or provide all that much nutrition in the form of vitamins, minerals and protein - the first and main ingredient is of course - potato. Nothing wrong with them I could see - just not something that could really replace the amount of protein, zinc and certain B vitamins found in meat.

So in the back of my mind I was thinking..."Hmm - Strav, you could take samples of your homemade burger for this guy to sample, and show how much more nutrient dense it is than the veggie burger he's offering, and how tasty too. Maybe he'll be interested in the recipe. You could charge him for it. Think big, Strav..."

Lol. Yes, I actually entertained that thought for a while. Until it dawned on me:

If I owned and operated a meat store - would I have any interest at all in a well prepared, tasty, filling and nutritious veggie burger?

And then I had to admit that the answer is "absolutely not". After all - the ingredients used are very easy to source and very cheap - beans, seeds, flour, various spices. Not many people in the suburbs own pigs, cattle, chickens (well a few, but darn few) - and many wouldn't if they could - too much trouble, smell etc. But these ingredients - I bet a lot of people would just grow them in their yards. No smell. Free, easy food.

And then I thought - Strav - a smart Butcher would absolutely not be interested in a great veggie burger that could actually replace his meat. He would much rather support the rather un-tasty, un-filling, and not very nutrient dense "veggie burger" he's already offering. Yes, he wants people to buy the "healthy" option - and then he wants to see them come back and buy his meat because they were still hungry and ...

You see where I'm going with this, Strav? You see?

Yes, I see.

Now, maybe a vegan restaurant might be interested...

Don't be silly. We live in the internet age you ...you....

ok! ok!

A lot of families have vegetarians and vegans (besides the meat eaters) so when they come in for their meat they might want to pick up a veggie burger or two if it's available

 

[Stravinsk]

A lot of families have vegetarians and vegans (besides the meat eaters) so when they come in for their meat they might want to pick up a veggie burger or two if it's available

What I'm saying is that as for being satiating and calorie dense - the "veggie burgers" I have seen typically sold at the supermarket and the ones at the butcher - well - a plain beef burger bests it in a number of areas like protein and certain vitamin and mineral content. Mind you, I live in Australia. Things are probably different where you're at.

I remember buying some on occasion from the supermarket years ago. So this is the kind of food vegetarians and vegans eat huh? A bit overpriced patties with the biggest ingredient being potato. From a health standpoint they were fine. From a protein and zinc and various B vitamin standpoints they simply weren't replacing meat. This is because the company/persons who dreamed them up didn't base them on pulses (real whole grains that haven't been tampered with which have much higher levels of vitamins, minerals, amino acids and essential fats) - they based them on a cheap (while nutritious but lacking in lots of goodies) - potato and a few other ingredients.

So if I was a butcher - I know I'd get customers who, for various reasons, would still be eating lots of meat but would also be interested in options considered more healthful. If I am smart butcher that wants to keep customers coming back to buy my meats - I would make an "ok" tasting veggie burger with cheap (but healthy) ingredients and not very dense on protein, vitamins, minerals and essential fats. So when the veg curious person tries one thinking "so, this is what vegetarians/vegans eat" - and finds also that it couldn't possibly replace meat - they are much more likely to continue to buy my other products - which I have made super tasty using superior spice blends and other methods.

In the real world - the only veggie burgers that are going to compete are going to be the ones that deliver on certain macronutrients (protein) along with other micronutrients (certain vitamins and minerals) that are also found in meat. The cow eats the wholegrains for all their vitamin, mineral and amino acid needs. What's offered in most of our processed food is basic robbery - they take the nutrients away by "refining" products (for instance taking away the germ and bran in wheat) - while most of the whole grains go to the feedstock. So in order to get them most people are trained also to eat the livestock - because the refined foods don't deliver.

The bread that is sold here - "wholegrain" is a misnomer. It's typically like 50%, not 100%. I've recently looked and not even my local grocer sells plain ol wheat germ. I can still get it in town - but in order to get it more locally I have to buy one of their overpriced processed cereals.

 

[Lamb]

A friend of mine makes her veggie burgers using beans so they're pretty healthy!

 

[Stravinsk]

It has been just over 2 weeks on a vegan diet that is increasingly whole food. I say increasingly because technically junky type foods can be vegan (potato chips, refined sugars, diary free ice cream loaded with high fructose corn syrup) and not contribute to health by providing empty, or relatively empty calories and unnatural or destroyed oils (frying/hydrogenation). That being said - diet is mostly clean and whole except for two areas: Some of the grain products I eat are refined ( wholemeal bread here is usually only 50% so it's still refined, the pasta and rice I currently buy is also from refined grains) and I still drink my homemade beer (an ingredient of which is dextrose - a refined (nutrient-less) sugar) - however I'm attempting to reduce consumption and am starting to reduce dextrose and will eventually eliminate it making my beer both less alcoholic and not as bad for health.

In place of meat/dairy/eggs I have greatly increased the use of real whole foods - nuts, seeds, legumes - in their natural form without processing(by this I mean - keeping all the nutrients intact as Nature intended and removing nothing) except for soaking them in preparation for sprouting.

I eat until I am satisfied. When the food is whole - and especially whole concentrated foods (nuts/seeds/beans) - then I need less of it to feel satisfied. I've found I can actually overdo it on these foods.

I have dropped 6 kilos in 2 weeks (just over 13 pounds) - and the only other change I've made is taking walks again in the evening on a daily basis. These have been relatively short, mostly. Around the block, or sometimes around 2 blocks.

 

[Lamb]

Halloween is getting closer! I can't wait to see the neighbors come to the house!