Under investigation

[psalms 91]

USA events are entertaining for the time being. One hopes that they remain entertaining and do not pass over into dangerous.

Impeach Donald while there is still time.

:smirk:

They are already dangerous

 

[MoreCoffee]

They are already dangerous

I think you're right. But neither you nor I can stop them being dangerous as far as I can tell.

 

[Cassia]

Truth be told life has always been dangerous, moreso when Catholics ruled, less so when Protestants came into being, except for women. Now the whole world is in danger. But we all need a laugh yet bafoonery is a poor substitute for wit.

 

[Saucy]

That's what frustrates me so much about politics and the left. They don't care about the votes of the people who supported Trump. They just want him out of office at all costs. Comey even confirmed that a lot of these news stories and 'leaks' that come through aren't even true. How much of it is true? WHO KNOWS. But the ONLY thing that hasn't leaked is any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

There's been ZERO evidence to come forward of any wrong doing and all the 'evidence' the dems talk about that's "piling up" isn't even there. Now the dems have moved on to obstruction of justice, but what did Trump obstruct? Trump himself wasn't under investigation, so what actually did he obstruct? Trump could've plainly told Comey to stop the investigation and that would've been well within his rights to do so. He also has the right to pardon Flynn of any wrongdoing.

Whether or not you feel Trump is crazy or will be a lame duck president (even though I think he's gotten a lot done, but it never sees the light in the media), he IS our president and I wish the left would respect the voice of the right more often. There's zero evidence of collusion to come forward. If it was there, it would've leaked by now. Can we move past this?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Let the record show that I have no leeks!

:smirk:

 

[Ruth]

The Donald did not have the common sense to know what he was doing when he told Comey to Forget about what's his name (sorry I forgot his name!) so I think he did not have serious motivation to do harm. Please excuse my post, I've had a few beers...lol

 

[tango]

Impeachment is good entertainment. Republicans thought so when they cooked up "white water" and inflated the Lewinsky issue into an attempted impeachment. And as a wise woman once said "what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander".

:smirk:

Given it appeared Bill Clinton lied under oath the Lewinsky scandal did appear to be valid grounds for impeachment. The minds behind turning it into little more than a question of just what she was doing under the desk did a master job of distracting people from what mattered, namely whether the President lied under oath. Just what happened between Bill and Monica is a private matter, relevant only to the two of them and Hillary. Whether the President lied under oath is relevant to the nation.

If, and it is still very much an if at this stage, Donald Trump has done something that warrants impeachment I'm sure people will be pushing for it, and rightly so. For now it's nothing more than an investigation so calls for impeachment are premature.

 

[tango]

They are already dangerous

To be honest the biggest danger I can see is the increasing tendency to turn to violence to make a point, and for the most part that seems to be coming from the left.

Then there are the odd nutjobs with guns and terrorists, but it still seems you're far more likely to die in a motor accident than get taken out by an angry young Islamic terrorist. I'm more concerned about teenagers texting while driving than I am about nutjobs with guns.

 

[MoreCoffee]

To be honest the biggest danger I can see is the increasing tendency to turn to violence to make a point, and for the most part that seems to be coming from the left.

Then there are the odd nutjobs with guns and terrorists, but it still seems you're far more likely to die in a motor accident than get taken out by an angry young Islamic terrorist. I'm more concerned about teenagers texting while driving than I am about nutjobs with guns.

The inflammatory tweets that Donald writes opens the door to inflamed responses.

 

[tango]

The inflammatory tweets that Donald writes opens the door to inflamed responses.

Inflamed responses in a similar medium, sure. But as I'm sure you know there's a huge difference between replying to a tweet considered inflammatory with an inflammatory tweet or faceache post, and replying to an inflammatory tweet by going out and shooting people. I can't see any way someone could justify physical violence as a response to a tweet, especially when the option exists to merely ignore the tweet and unsubscribe from the feed.

 

[hedrick]

There's been ZERO evidence to come forward of any wrong doing and all the 'evidence' the dems talk about that's "piling up" isn't even there. Now the dems have moved on to obstruction of justice, but what did Trump obstruct? Trump himself wasn't under investigation, so what actually did he obstruct? Trump could've plainly told Comey to stop the investigation and that would've been well within his rights to do so. He also has the right to pardon Flynn of any wrongdoing.

There are two real problems:

* There's evidence of Russian interference. Investigation of it will presumably involve looking at both campaigns. Since Trump benefited from it, and he and his stuff have more contact with Russians that is typical, it's reasonable that they would be looked at carefully.
* Several people associated with Trump seem to have been uncandid in responding to questions about their involvement with Russia.

It's not uncommon that what gets people in trouble is covering up activities, more than the activities themselves.

There are levels of investigation. What I described in the first bullet is consistent with a preliminary investigation. It doesn't mean there's any evidence that Trump did anything. I think we'd have heard if there were.

Personally I doubt that there was any actual collusion. It was obvious from the beginning that Trump tended to be positive towards Russia and their leaders, and Clinton tended to be more hawkish than usual. I don't think any collusion would be needed to convince Russia that they'd be better off with Trump as president.

 

[Saucy]

At this current date, Trump isn't under investigation that we know of...but Loretta Lynch and Bernie Sanders and his wife certainly are!

 

[MoreCoffee]

The USA west coast and north east cost ought to secede from the the USA and either join Canada - a bastion of true democracy - or form a new nation.

 

[Cassia]

Canada - a bastion of true democracy.

A bastion of free speech it is no longer. Most Canadians think the country is just turning into a joke thanks to Trudeau's liberality. Trump keeps looking better all the time. We may still have God in the national anthem but I can see Him getting overruled by the boyleader soon too. Justin has already mandated that no one in his party can vote Pro-life.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/17756...n-now-be-fined-or-jailed-amanda-prestigiacomo

 

[JPPT1974]

They need to find the facts not just something to find just to impeach him.

 

[MoreCoffee]

A bastion of free speech it is no longer. Most Canadians think the country is just turning into a joke thanks to Trudeau's liberality. ...

Don't say that to saint James the naughty; he thinks of your PM as saint Justin

 

[Cassia]

It's one thing for gays to have free speech but it should never be at the expense of others.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It's one thing for gays to have free speech but it should never be at the expense of others.

Justin Trudeau isn't gay is he?

 

[Cassia]

Justin Trudeau isn't gay is he?

No he's married and reproducing other fine Canadians that will hopefully have a democratic gvmnt still in place in the future.

 

[MoreCoffee]

No he's married and reproducing other fine Canadians that will hopefully have a democratic gvmnt still in place in the future.

As long as "saint Justin" is PM Canada will remain free