The arguments for Sunday

[amadeois]

About Daniel 8:13 and 14.

This is the actual amount if days, about 6 years plus a few days, since the time that Antiochus IV Epiphanes desacreted the Jerusalem Temple in 171 BC and was cleansed back in 165 BC.



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[amadeois]

The 3 days and 3 nights are consecutive days.

They start exactly at 3:00 PM in the middle of the week, that we call nowadays Wednesday (paying respect to another god than the real God), and was resurrected on His day the Sabbath day, the day of rest and last day of the week.

Somebody changed things to make you believe that Jesus day is Sunday. Big error if you believe that.

Read, review, recheck all those things regarding whatever you are studying about the word of God and you'll start to understand His message.

Imitate the people living in Berea that reviewed and checked everything Paul was telling them.

It will take you a long way and it WILL OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND MIND.

All the answers are in the book, not outside.

Knowing about surrounding events helps you to understand His word, but the answers are IN THE BOOK.

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[amadeois]

The early church gathered together on Sundays to take communion (Acts 20:7).

Why did they do that?
We're they worshiping like the jews were doing it on their day of rest?
Jesus was a jew and He attended the synagogues on the Sabbath day.
Jesus dies not change, so why change the COMMANDMENT to a "tradition".

What did Jesus say about traditions?

They were gathered to share a neal, not communion. It is on the Opening Statement presented by visionary.

The Christians went away from the jews and started to do their own thing, not what God had commanded. Why did they do this? Search and find out.






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[amadeois]

More on the 2,300 days.

This vision is ONLY for the time between September 6, 171 through December 25, 165 (Chanukah) and not any end times.

Antiochus Epiphanes did not destroy the temple but PROFANED or DESECRATED it with his actions.

This period of 2,300 days is exactly 6 years and 110 days of years of 365 days. (You do the math)

The 7th Day Adventist counted 2,300 years starting from 456 BCE to 1,845 EC. NON SENSE

No temple was cleansed that day.

Daniel had several visions and the Bible is very specific on Daniel 8:13:
"the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?"

This verse is SPECIFICALLY describing that vision only and NOT the others as mentioned in Daniel 8:17.

Also that time of the end DOES NOT refer to Revelation End Times because The Ram, Goat and little horn ALREADY HAPPENED in the past.

The 4th and 5th beasts also already happened but this issue should not be discussed here.

Wrote this to clarify somebody discussing the Daniel's 2,300 days (evening and mornings)



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[visionary]

The 3 days and 3 nights are consecutive days.

They start exactly at 3:00 PM in the middle of the week, that we call nowadays Wednesday (paying respect to another god than the real God), and was resurrected on His day the Sabbath day, the day of rest and last day of the week.

Somebody changed things to make you believe that Jesus day is Sunday. Big error if you believe that.

Read, review, recheck all those things regarding whatever you are studying about the word of God and you'll start to understand His message.

Imitate the people living in Berea that reviewed and checked everything Paul was telling them.

It will take you a long way and it WILL OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND MIND.

All the answers are in the book, not outside.

Knowing about surrounding events helps you to understand His word, but the answers are IN THE BOOK.

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I wonder how many cleansings, type of cleansings, and places of cleansings must be done before we get our Temple clean.

 

[amadeois]

The temple, aaahhh the temple that many people think it will be rebuilt.

I believe it will never be rebuilt. I don't see anything in the Bible that says that it will be rebuilt.

If somebody has an idea that it will, please guide me to that passage and I'll study it and may be agree with you and I'll change my mind, but it has to be in the book, not things that other people say or think.

Why I believe the temple is gone, is because Jesus said that our body is the temple and we are the priest and we should honor him with our entire body and specially our mind: the spirit that the devil wants to kill.

The first death does not count much but if you die spiritualy, that's it. You will not be able to enjoy God's company for eternity.

Peace be with you brothers.

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[visionary]

The temple, aaahhh the temple that many people think it will be rebuilt.

I believe it will never be rebuilt. I don't see anything in the Bible that says that it will be rebuilt.

If somebody has an idea that it will, please guide me to that passage and I'll study it and may be agree with you and I'll change my mind, but it has to be in the book, not things that other people say or think.

Why I believe the temple is gone, is because Jesus said that our body is the temple and we are the priest and we should honor him with our entire body and specially our mind: the spirit that the devil wants to kill.

The first death does not count much but if you die spiritualy, that's it. You will not be able to enjoy God's company for eternity.

Peace be with you brothers.

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What temple is the son of perdition at?

2 Thess 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

 

[George]

Just thought this would fit in. Someone who I suppose belongs to an Oriental Evangelical(?) Church dropped off a pamphlet by our door last night. It said when you worship on Sunday, you worship the Mark of the Beast lol. I threw it away.

 

[psalms 91]

I dont think so lol

 

[Lamb]

Just thought this would fit in. Someone who I suppose belongs to an Oriental Evangelical(?) Church dropped off a pamphlet by our door last night. It said when you worship on Sunday, you worship the Mark of the Beast lol. I threw it away.

Because NO one is allowed to worship on Sundays Christ is our Sabbath rest and the old testament day was to lead up to the real deal...the one who died for us.

 

[pinacled]

Just thought this would fit in. Someone who I suppose belongs to an Oriental Evangelical(?) Church dropped off a pamphlet by our door last night. It said when you worship on Sunday, you worship the Mark of the Beast lol. I threw it away.

Interesting.
Someone must of called the kings of the east.

 

[Josiah]

Just thought this would fit in. Someone who I suppose belongs to an Oriental Evangelical(?) Church dropped off a pamphlet by our door last night. It said when you worship on Sunday, you worship the Mark of the Beast lol. I threw it away.

Smart man.

 

[visionary]

Smart man.

We will see.

 

[amadeois]

About the "temple."

Revelation 15:5
And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

6. And the seven angels came out of the temple ...

So the temple is in Heaven.

Revelation 21:10
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God.

So the city comes down including the temple of the tabernacle.

Not made with hands, but by God Himself.

I hope this clarifies some of the questions about the temple.





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[visionary]

About the "temple."
Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6. And the seven angels came out of the temple ...

So the temple is in Heaven.

Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God.

So the city comes down including the temple of the tabernacle. Not made with hands, but by God Himself. I hope this clarifies some of the questions about the temple.

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I believe that those temple doors will be opened and the ark of the tabernacle will be seen on Judgment Day [Yom Kippur]. How can God judge without revealing His TEN are still in His Place and upon which He makes judgments by?

 

[psalms 91]

I believe that those temple doors will be opened and the ark of the tabernacle will be seen on Judgment Day [Yom Kippur]. How can God judge without revealing His TEN are still in His Place and upon which He makes judgments by?

Never thought of that

 

[visionary]

Never thought of that

Now that is a visual I am looking forward to.. A glimpse into God's court room.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, what a thought

 

[amadeois]

The Great White Throne Judgement happens right after the devil was cast into the lake of fire, where the beast and false prophet are waiting for their friend. You might say: The Evil 3 Amigos.

Then the books are opened: specially "the book life."

And those that their names were not on that book, ended together with the "3 Evil Amigos."

So after this, Revelation 21, mentions that the New ( and improved) Jerusalem dressed as a "BRIDE" comes down from Heaven.

Pay attention to verses 3 and 4. There shall be no more death. So no more killing of animals, so no more need of an ark to spray that blood of ghoats.

The "LAST SACRIFICE" was the lamb of God, none other than Jesus. More like 2,000 years ago.

Verse 7 says that those that "overcometh" shall inherit all things. To overcome what? I believe is to overcome our human nature = sin.

So who is the "bride"? It seems is not the church but the "New Jerusalem" where all the saved people will live with God through eternity.

The head of the church, Jesus, does get marry with its body? Aren't they one entity? So how come a part of the body will marry another part?

A note about the body of Jesus:
1. The body of Christ is perfect,
2. They say the church is the body of Christ, but too many churches are fighting between themselves like a sick body. So are they the body of Jesus?
3. They might be surprised when they read the names written on the Book of Life.

IS YOUR NAME IN THAT BOOK???





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[Alithis]

sunday worship ... not called for under the new covenant , not taught ,not instructed , not commanded ,not in the scriptures .

saturday worship - from saturn day- see above .

7th day .. rest day , made FOR man .. for our good ..God always does things for our good not our harm .
but under the NEW covenant , also not commanded ,nor taught ,nor instructed to be a worship day ..

so when is ? Every single day we abide in chrsit jesus .. one eternal day of rest ,one eternal worship .