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misunderstood? Seems to me that the verse si very clear

I hope you don't think that it means that we are saved by our deeds, even in part. That is quite opposite to what James is teaching in his epistle.
 

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misunderstood? Seems to me that the verse si very clear

Yes, brother psalms 91, the verse is clear but for some their theology fogs the verse. Saint James was echoing the teaching of the Lord, Jesus Christ, when he wrote that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Jesus taught that a branch in the vine can remain in the vine only by bearing fruit and that bearing fruit was the purpose that God the Father intended for the branches. When any branch did not bear fruit it was pruned by the Father and cast aside to be gathered up and incinerated. To remain in the vine, to remain in Christ's love a person needs to obey the Lord's commandments.
John 15:10 You will remain in my love if you keep my commandments, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.​
 

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Yes, brother psalms 91, the verse is clear but for some their theology fogs the verse. Saint James was echoing the teaching of the Lord, Jesus Christ, when he wrote that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Jesus taught that a branch in the vine can remain in the vine only by bearing fruit and that bearing fruit was the purpose that God the Father intended for the branches. When any branch did not bear fruit it was pruned by the Father and cast aside to be gathered up and incinerated. To remain in the vine, to remain in Christ's love a person needs to obey the Lord's commandments..
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Very well. Point us to somebody who kept all the Commandments and so was saved as a result.
 

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Very well. Point us to somebody who kept all the Commandments and so was saved as a result.

People are saved by grace through faith for the purpose of doing the good works that God prepared for them as their way of life.

Righteous Seth, Enoch who pleased God, Job who Jehovah said was upright and perfect, Blessed Mary who is called full-of-grace were all saved by grace.
 

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Bump for MC

Do you see a difference between works and deeds? They are synonymous for me.


Here's what you quoted:
"You call upon a Father who makes no distinction between persons, but judges, according to each one’s deeds"

The judgment is the deeds, MC. It is right there in your quote.
You get it wrong at the very beginning and that messes up the rest of your thinking. No one can help you if you cannot see the obvious statement in that text.
 

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People are saved by grace through faith for the purpose of doing the good works that God prepared for them as their way of life.

Righteous Seth, Enoch who pleased God, Job who Jehovah said was upright and perfect, Blessed Mary who is called full-of-grace were all saved by grace.

I asked you to follow up the claim you made by showing us one person who was able to keep the Commandments and so was saved because of it.

What you have written here is not an answer to that request. But let us pretend that it is. So, out of all the people who have ever lived, you named FOUR who were saved (but by grace, not by being able to keep the Commandments perfectly).

The outlook is pretty bleak for mankind in that case, isn't it?





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Yes, brother psalms 91, the verse is clear but for some their theology fogs the verse. Saint James was echoing the teaching of the Lord, Jesus Christ, when he wrote that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Jesus taught that a branch in the vine can remain in the vine only by bearing fruit and that bearing fruit was the purpose that God the Father intended for the branches. When any branch did not bear fruit it was pruned by the Father and cast aside to be gathered up and incinerated. To remain in the vine, to remain in Christ's love a person needs to obey the Lord's commandments.
John 15:10 You will remain in my love if you keep my commandments, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.​

Every Christians remains in Christ's love by obeying Christ's commandments. John 15:10 You will remain in my love if you keep my commandments, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.
 

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Every Christians remains ....


The issue here is not how a CHRISTIANS remains saved but how a Christian IS saved. In other words, do you agree with Protestants that Jesus (and NO OTHER, including the one you see in the mirror) is (actually, factually) the (one and only, all sufficient) Savior (the one who does all the saving; not just an Offerer or Door Opener, or Possibility-Maker or Enabler/Helper but the One who does the SAVING)? The position Protestants here been proclaiming for 500 years and for 89 pages in this thread or with the RC denomination that split Western Christianity to repudiate this and with the few here at CH who for 89 pages now have been debating, rejecting, repudiating, ridiculing or just evading this?




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The issue here is not how a CHRISTIANS remains
You're wrong about that, The thread is about salvation and nobody is "saved" until it is all over. Matthew 25:31-46 tells the story better than any opinion offered by parroting some 16th century ex-monk's theology.
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You're wrong about that, The thread is about salvation and nobody is "saved" until it is all over. Matthew 25:31-46 tells the story better than any opinion offered by parroting some 16th century ex-monk's theology.
Do you understand that Jesus is talking to the Jews about the Day of the Lord in Matthew 25:31-46?
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
Do you miss the fact that the sheep inherit the Kingdom that was prepared for them from the foundation of the world? Do you not see how Paul connected this in Ephesians 1:4-6?
33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Do you miss the fact that the sheep didn't recognize they had done anything?
35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
Do you miss that the goats were born under the curse of sin; Adams sin?
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Do you miss the fact that the sheep and goats both had no clue?
42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Both the sheep and goats were clueless about what they had done or didn't do. The difference is that one was given their inheritance and one was given their curse.
Both were given what God chose to give and neither were saved by their works.
 

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Do you understand that Jesus is talking to the Jews about the Day of the Lord in Matthew 25:31-46?
The Lord speaks to Jews about the nations of the world in Matthew 25:31-46. The ones judged are the people of the nations, including Jews, and the ones who are faithful in deeds as well as putting their faith in the Lord are given eternal life in the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world. The others, who were unfaithful in deeds yet who recognise the Lord on judgement day are sent off to eternal punishment.
Do you miss the fact that the sheep inherit the Kingdom that was prepared for them from the foundation of the world? Do you not see how Paul connected this in Ephesians 1:4-6?

Do you miss the fact that the sheep didn't recognize they had done anything?
Both the righteous and the wicked recognised the deeds they had done, good in the case of the righteous and bad for the wicked, what surprised them was that in doing good they did it to the Lord and for the wicked in doing bad they did it to the Lord.
Do you miss that the goats were born under the curse of sin; Adams sin?
People are the subjects of the judgement, not goats nor sheep. People answer the Lord when he says "well done ..." and also when he says "depart you who are cursed ..." The story is about people from the nations it is not about sheep and goats, the use of sheep and goats along with a shepherd is illustrative simile for the prpose of making the story clear to the people listening - Jews who farmed and herded animals.
Do you miss the fact that the sheep and goats both had no clue?

Both the sheep and goats were clueless about what they had done or didn't do. The difference is that one was given their inheritance and one was given their curse.
Both were given what God chose to give and neither were saved by their works.
I do not miss the selective reading evident in your account of the story told by the Lord. It would be hard to miss how poorly your explanation accounts for what the Lord said. Bad theology has perverted the way you've explained the passage.

Matthew 25:31-46 31 But when the Son of man will have arrived in his majesty, and all the Angels with him, then he will sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all the nations shall be gathered together before him. And he shall separate them from one another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he shall station the sheep, indeed, on his right, but the goats on his left.

34 Then the King shall say to those who will be on his right: ‘Come, you blessed of my Father. Possess the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; 36 naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.’

37 Then the just will answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when have we see you hungry, and fed you; thirsty, and given you drink? 38 And when have we seen you a stranger, and taken you in? Or naked, and covered you? 39 Or when did we see you sick, or in prison, and visit to you?’

40 And in response, the King shall say to them, ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did this for one of these, the least of my brothers, you did it for me.’

41 Then he shall also say, to those who will be on his left: ‘Depart from me, you accursed ones, into the eternal fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and you did not give me to drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take me in; naked, and you did not cover me; sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.’

44 Then they will also answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he shall respond to them by saying: ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did not do it to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.’

46 And these shall go into eternal punishment, but the just shall go into eternal life.”​
 
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This is about the Day of the Lord. Look that up so you can see what Jesus is explaining to his Jewish listeners.
The Lord speaks to Jews about the nations of the world in Matthew 25:31-46. The ones judged are the people of the nations, including Jews, and the ones who are faithful in deeds as well as putting their faith in the Lord are given eternal life in the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world. The others, who were unfaithful in deeds yet who recognise the Lord on judgement day are sent off to eternal punishment. Both the righteous and the wicked recognised the deeds they had done, good in the case of the righteous and bad for the wicked, what surprised them was that oin doing good they did it to the Lord and for the wicked in doing bad they did it to the Lord. People are the subjects of the judgement, not goats nor sheep. People answer the Lord when he says "well done ..." and also when he says "depart you who are cursed ..." The story is about people from the nations it is not about sheep and goats, the use of sheep and goats along with a shepherd is illustrative simile for the prpose of making the story clear to the people listening - Jews who farmed and herded animals.
I do not miss the selective reading evident in your account of the story told by the Lord. It would be hard to miss how poorly your explanation accounts for what the Lord said. Bad theology has perverted the way you're explained the passage.

Matthew 25:31-46 31 But when the Son of man will have arrived in his majesty, and all the Angels with him, then he will sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all the nations shall be gathered together before him. And he shall separate them from one another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he shall station the sheep, indeed, on his right, but the goats on his left.

34 Then the King shall say to those who will be on his right: ‘Come, you blessed of my Father. Possess the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; 36 naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.’

37 Then the just will answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when have we see you hungry, and fed you; thirsty, and given you drink? 38 And when have we seen you a stranger, and taken you in? Or naked, and covered you? 39 Or when did we see you sick, or in prison, and visit to you?’

40 And in response, the King shall say to them, ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did this for one of these, the least of my brothers, you did it for me.’

41 Then he shall also say, to those who will be on his left: ‘Depart from me, you accursed ones, into the eternal fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and you did not give me to drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take me in; naked, and you did not cover me; sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.’

44 Then they will also answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he shall respond to them by saying: ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did not do it to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.’

46 And these shall go into eternal punishment, but the just shall go into eternal life.”​
It does no good to discuss this passage with you if you refuse to acknowledge that the sheep were receiving the inheritance they had been given from the foundation of the world. It does no good to discuss this passage with you if you refuse to acknowledge that the goats were being thrown in hell because they were cursed by sin.
Nowhere does Jesus say they are saved because of their works. You are projecting, into the passage, your own bias.
 

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God bless you too MennoSota.

I wonder what a Presbyterian pastor would say in his commentary about the passage, or even John Calvin?

Albert Barnes who was a Presbyterian Pastor but died some time ago, wrote:
Verse 31. When the Son of man, etc. This is in answer to the question which the disciples proposed to him respecting the end of the world, Mt 24:3. That this refers to the last judgment, and not, as some have supposed, to the destruction of Jerusalem, appears

(1.) from the fact that it was in answer to an express inquiry respecting the end of the world.

(2.) All nations were to be assembled--which did not take place at Jerusalem.

(3.) A separation was to take place between the righteous and the wicked --which was not done at Jerusalem.

(4.) The rewards and punishments are declared to be eternal. None of these things took place at the destruction of Jerusalem.
In his glory. In his own proper honour. With his glorified body, and as the Head and King of the universe, Acts 1:11, Ep 1:20-22, 1Thes 4:16 1Cor 15:24,25.

The throne of his glory. This means, in the language of the Hebrews, his glorious or splendid throne. It is not to be taken literally, as if there would be a material throne or seat of the King of Zion. It expresses the idea that he will come as a King and Judge to assemble his subjects before him, and to appoint them their rewards.

(v) "When" Dan 7:13, Zech 14:5, Mt 16:27, 19:28, Mk 8:38, Acts 1:11, 1Thes 4:16 2Thes 1:7, Jude 1:14, Rev 1:7​
The story is told to the disciples, not to Jews in general. But may that be a point you do not care to discuss?
He goes on to say:
Verse 32. And before him, etc. At his coming to judgement, the world will be burned up and destroyed, 2Pet 3:10,12, Rev 20:11. The dead in Christ, i.e., all true Christians--shall be first raised up from their graves, 1Thes 4:16. The living shall be changed --i.e., shall be made like the glorified bodies of those that are raised from the dead, 1Cor 15:52-54, 1Thes 4:17. All the wicked shall rise and come forth to judgement, Jn 5:28,29, Dan 12:2; Mt 13:41,42, Rev 20:13. Then shall the world be judged, the righteous saved, and the wicked punished.

And he shall separate, etc. Shall determine respecting their character, and shall appoint them their doom accordingly.

(w) "And before him" Rom 14:10, 2Cor 5:10, Rev 20:12 (x) "separate them" Eze 20:38, Mt 13:49 (y) "shepherd divideth" Ps 78:52, Jn 10:14,27​
So far the Presbyterian pastor follows a similar explanation to the one I gave to you in my previous post. Le's see how he proceeds:
Verse 33. Shall set the sheep, etc. By the sheep are denoted, here, the righteous. The name is given to them because the sheep is an emblem of innocence and harmlessness. See Jn 10:7, 14-16, 27; Ps 100:3, 74:1, 23:1

On his right hand. The right hand is the place of honour, and denotes the situation of those who are honoured, or those who are virtuous. See Eccl 10:2, Eph 1:20, Ps 110:1, Acts 2:25,33.

The goats. The wicked. See Eze 34:17.

The left. That is, the left hand. This was the place of dishonour, denoting condemnation. See Eccl 10:2.

(z) "right hand" Heb 1:3​
So far he has not taken your preferred line of explanation, The one clouded by bad theology. Let's see what he says next:
Verse 34. The King. That is, the Lord Jesus, the King of Zion and of the universe, now acting as Judge, Lk 19:38, Jn 18:37, Rev 17:14, 19:16.

Blessed of my Father. Made happy, or raised to felicity by my Father. Mt 5:3.

Inherit the kingdom. Receive as heirs the kingdom, or be received there as the sons of God. Christians are often called heirs of God, Rom 8:17, Gal 4:6,7, Heb 1:14, 1Jn 3:2.

Prepared for you, etc. That is, designed for you, or appointed for you. The phrase, from the foundation of the world, is used to denote that this was appointed for them in the beginning; that God has no new plan; that the rewards which he will now confer on them he always intended to confer. Christ says to the righteous that the kingdom was prepared for them. Of course God meant to confer it on them. They were individuals; and it follows that he intended to bestow his salvation on them as individuals. Accordingly, the salvation of his people is uniformly represented as the result of the free gift of God, according to his own pleasure, bestowed on individuals, and by a plan which is eternal, Rom 8:29,30, Eph 1:4, 5, 11, 12, 2Thes 2:13; 1Pet 1:2, Jn 6:37. This is right and consistent with justice; for,

(1.) all men are by nature equally undeserving.

(2.) Bestowing favours on one does not do injustice to another, where neither deserves favour. Pardoning one criminal is not injuring another. Bestowing great talents on Locke, Newton, or Paul, did not injure me.

(3.) If it is right for God to give eternal life to his people, or to admit them to heaven, it was right to determine to do it, which is but another way of saying that God resolved from all eternity to do right. Those who perish choose the paths which lead to death, and will not be saved by the merits of Jesus. No blame can be charged on God if he does not save them against their will, Jn 5:40, Mk 16:15, 16.​

(a) "blessed of" Ps 115:15 (b) "inherit" Rom 8:17, 1Pet 1:4 (c) "the kingdom" 1Thes 2:12, Rev 5:10 (d) "prepared" 1Cor 2:9, Heb 11:16​
What he says above is consistent with his Presbyterian theology, it has backing from the passages he cites but not in the passage he is discussing. The story told in Matthew 25:31-46 gives no special emphasis to "individuals" but nevertheless it is true that people are individuals however they may be grouped. In this case they are grouped into two separated categories, the righteous on the right of the King and the wicked on his left. But let's see what else he says:
Verses 35,36. I was an hungered. The union between Christ and his people is the most tender and endearing of all connections. It is represented by the closest unions of which we have knowledge, Jn 15:4-6; Eph 5:23-32, 1Cor 6:15. This is a union not physical, but moral; a union of feelings, interests, plans, destiny; or, in other words, he and his people have similar feelings, love the same objects, share the same trials, and inherit the same blessedness, Jn 14:19, Rev 3:5, 21, Rom 8:17. Hence he considers favours shown to his people as shown to himself, and will reward them accordingly, Mt 10:40, 42. They show attachment to him, and love to his cause. By showing kindness to the poor, and needy, and sick, they show that they possess his spirit--for he did it when on earth; they evince attachment to him, for he was poor and needy; and they show that they have the proper spirit to fit them for heaven, 1Jn 3:14,17, Jas 2:1-5, Mk 9:41.

Was a stranger. The word stranger means a foreigner, or traveller; in our language, one unknown to us. To receive such to the rites of hospitality was, in eastern countries, where there were few or no public houses, a great virtue. See Gen 18:1-8, Heb 13:2.

Took me in. Into your house. Received me kindly.

Naked. Poorly clothed. Among the Jews they were called naked who were clad in poor raiment, or they who had on only the tunic or inner garment, without any outer garment. Mt 5:40, Acts 19:16; Mk 14:51,52, Job 22:6, Isa 58:7.

(e) "For I was" Is 58:7, Eze 18:7 (f) "stranger" 1Pet 4:9, 3Jn 1:5​
Time to pause, since this post is long enough already. The rest of Albert Barnes's explanation can be posted if you want. I may post it eventually anyway. It is interesting and despite occasional theological biases in his explanation he has thus far avoided the very bad theology that created the explanation that you gave MennoSota.
 

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An "inheritance" by definition is something the receiver did NOT earn or achieve.... it is, by definition, a GIFT, something GIVEN.

Justification is not something we earn, achieve, merit or accomplish (in whole or in part) - making Jesus an irrelevant joke and not the Savior. Justification is "the free gift of God" ... "NOT the result of anything we've done lest any have reason to boast."




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An "inheritance" by definition is something the receiver did NOT earn or achieve.... it is, by definition, a GIFT, something GIVEN.

Justification is not something we earn, achieve, merit or accomplish (in whole or in part) - making Jesus an irrelevant joke and not the Savior. Justification is "the free gift of God" ... "NOT the result of anything we've done lest any have reason to boast."




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Not by works means what it means and the concepts of inheritance and adoption back that up perfectly.
 

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Not by works means what it means and the concepts of inheritance and adoption back that up perfectly.

Yes the salient matter in the last judgement is what people did. The just did good, the wicked did no good.
 

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The just did good, the wicked did no good.


And how did the "just" become just (Justified) and thus could do good? HINT: "Without faith, it is impossible to please God."

Justification (narrow) the giving/granting of spiritual life - faith - Holy Spiirit and thus a changed relationship with God. Protestants believe that Jesus does this, that Jesus is the Savior, that this is because of Jesus' incarnation, death, resurrection (HIS works) GIVEN to us as "the free gift of God" and "the inheritance from God" and NOT because self does this for self making Jesus and Christianity a sick joke and the Christian Gospel wrong.

IMO, any person or denomination/sect/cult/church that insists the SELF justifies self (even in part) therefore, by necessity, denies that Jesus does - and thus deceives when it or they call Jesus the Savior.




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An "inheritance"... is, by definition... something GIVEN.

Justification is not something we earn, achieve, merit or accomplish (in whole or in part)

Yet we are to SEEK it...

"This is the generation that seeks the Face of the God of Jacob..."

You seem to deny man's need to seek God...

That we can only seek Him AFTER we have found Him...

That we cannot find Him by seeking Him...

Yet the Bible commands us to seek, that we should find...

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God bless you too MennoSota.

I wonder what a Presbyterian pastor would say in his commentary about the passage, or even John Calvin?

Albert Barnes who was a Presbyterian Pastor but died some time ago, wrote:
Verse 31. When the Son of man, etc. This is in answer to the question which the disciples proposed to him respecting the end of the world, Mt 24:3. That this refers to the last judgment, and not, as some have supposed, to the destruction of Jerusalem, appears

(1.) from the fact that it was in answer to an express inquiry respecting the end of the world.

(2.) All nations were to be assembled--which did not take place at Jerusalem.

(3.) A separation was to take place between the righteous and the wicked --which was not done at Jerusalem.

(4.) The rewards and punishments are declared to be eternal. None of these things took place at the destruction of Jerusalem.
In his glory. In his own proper honour. With his glorified body, and as the Head and King of the universe, Acts 1:11, Ep 1:20-22, 1Thes 4:16 1Cor 15:24,25.

The throne of his glory. This means, in the language of the Hebrews, his glorious or splendid throne. It is not to be taken literally, as if there would be a material throne or seat of the King of Zion. It expresses the idea that he will come as a King and Judge to assemble his subjects before him, and to appoint them their rewards.

(v) "When" Dan 7:13, Zech 14:5, Mt 16:27, 19:28, Mk 8:38, Acts 1:11, 1Thes 4:16 2Thes 1:7, Jude 1:14, Rev 1:7​
The story is told to the disciples, not to Jews in general. But may that be a point you do not care to discuss?
He goes on to say:
Verse 32. And before him, etc. At his coming to judgement, the world will be burned up and destroyed, 2Pet 3:10,12, Rev 20:11. The dead in Christ, i.e., all true Christians--shall be first raised up from their graves, 1Thes 4:16. The living shall be changed --i.e., shall be made like the glorified bodies of those that are raised from the dead, 1Cor 15:52-54, 1Thes 4:17. All the wicked shall rise and come forth to judgement, Jn 5:28,29, Dan 12:2; Mt 13:41,42, Rev 20:13. Then shall the world be judged, the righteous saved, and the wicked punished.

And he shall separate, etc. Shall determine respecting their character, and shall appoint them their doom accordingly.

(w) "And before him" Rom 14:10, 2Cor 5:10, Rev 20:12 (x) "separate them" Eze 20:38, Mt 13:49 (y) "shepherd divideth" Ps 78:52, Jn 10:14,27​
So far the Presbyterian pastor follows a similar explanation to the one I gave to you in my previous post. Le's see how he proceeds:
Verse 33. Shall set the sheep, etc. By the sheep are denoted, here, the righteous. The name is given to them because the sheep is an emblem of innocence and harmlessness. See Jn 10:7, 14-16, 27; Ps 100:3, 74:1, 23:1

On his right hand. The right hand is the place of honour, and denotes the situation of those who are honoured, or those who are virtuous. See Eccl 10:2, Eph 1:20, Ps 110:1, Acts 2:25,33.

The goats. The wicked. See Eze 34:17.

The left. That is, the left hand. This was the place of dishonour, denoting condemnation. See Eccl 10:2.

(z) "right hand" Heb 1:3​
So far he has not taken your preferred line of explanation, The one clouded by bad theology. Let's see what he says next:
Verse 34. The King. That is, the Lord Jesus, the King of Zion and of the universe, now acting as Judge, Lk 19:38, Jn 18:37, Rev 17:14, 19:16.

Blessed of my Father. Made happy, or raised to felicity by my Father. Mt 5:3.

Inherit the kingdom. Receive as heirs the kingdom, or be received there as the sons of God. Christians are often called heirs of God, Rom 8:17, Gal 4:6,7, Heb 1:14, 1Jn 3:2.

Prepared for you, etc. That is, designed for you, or appointed for you. The phrase, from the foundation of the world, is used to denote that this was appointed for them in the beginning; that God has no new plan; that the rewards which he will now confer on them he always intended to confer. Christ says to the righteous that the kingdom was prepared for them. Of course God meant to confer it on them. They were individuals; and it follows that he intended to bestow his salvation on them as individuals. Accordingly, the salvation of his people is uniformly represented as the result of the free gift of God, according to his own pleasure, bestowed on individuals, and by a plan which is eternal, Rom 8:29,30, Eph 1:4, 5, 11, 12, 2Thes 2:13; 1Pet 1:2, Jn 6:37. This is right and consistent with justice; for,

(1.) all men are by nature equally undeserving.

(2.) Bestowing favours on one does not do injustice to another, where neither deserves favour. Pardoning one criminal is not injuring another. Bestowing great talents on Locke, Newton, or Paul, did not injure me.

(3.) If it is right for God to give eternal life to his people, or to admit them to heaven, it was right to determine to do it, which is but another way of saying that God resolved from all eternity to do right. Those who perish choose the paths which lead to death, and will not be saved by the merits of Jesus. No blame can be charged on God if he does not save them against their will, Jn 5:40, Mk 16:15, 16.​

(a) "blessed of" Ps 115:15 (b) "inherit" Rom 8:17, 1Pet 1:4 (c) "the kingdom" 1Thes 2:12, Rev 5:10 (d) "prepared" 1Cor 2:9, Heb 11:16​
What he says above is consistent with his Presbyterian theology, it has backing from the passages he cites but not in the passage he is discussing. The story told in Matthew 25:31-46 gives no special emphasis to "individuals" but nevertheless it is true that people are individuals however they may be grouped. In this case they are grouped into two separated categories, the righteous on the right of the King and the wicked on his left. But let's see what else he says:
Verses 35,36. I was an hungered. The union between Christ and his people is the most tender and endearing of all connections. It is represented by the closest unions of which we have knowledge, Jn 15:4-6; Eph 5:23-32, 1Cor 6:15. This is a union not physical, but moral; a union of feelings, interests, plans, destiny; or, in other words, he and his people have similar feelings, love the same objects, share the same trials, and inherit the same blessedness, Jn 14:19, Rev 3:5, 21, Rom 8:17. Hence he considers favours shown to his people as shown to himself, and will reward them accordingly, Mt 10:40, 42. They show attachment to him, and love to his cause. By showing kindness to the poor, and needy, and sick, they show that they possess his spirit--for he did it when on earth; they evince attachment to him, for he was poor and needy; and they show that they have the proper spirit to fit them for heaven, 1Jn 3:14,17, Jas 2:1-5, Mk 9:41.

Was a stranger. The word stranger means a foreigner, or traveller; in our language, one unknown to us. To receive such to the rites of hospitality was, in eastern countries, where there were few or no public houses, a great virtue. See Gen 18:1-8, Heb 13:2.

Took me in. Into your house. Received me kindly.

Naked. Poorly clothed. Among the Jews they were called naked who were clad in poor raiment, or they who had on only the tunic or inner garment, without any outer garment. Mt 5:40, Acts 19:16; Mk 14:51,52, Job 22:6, Isa 58:7.

(e) "For I was" Is 58:7, Eze 18:7 (f) "stranger" 1Pet 4:9, 3Jn 1:5​
Time to pause, since this post is long enough already. The rest of Albert Barnes's explanation can be posted if you want. I may post it eventually anyway. It is interesting and despite occasional theological biases in his explanation he has thus far avoided the very bad theology that created the explanation that you gave MennoSota.
You seem ignorant of the fact that Barnes specifically denotes the sheep inherit was theirs at the foundation of the world. Barnes agrees with me and thus rejects your position, MC. But, you seem unable to comprehend this. I suspect your internal bias won't let you read the passage as it is written.
 

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And how did the "just" become just (Justified) and thus could do good? HINT: "Without faith, it is impossible to please God."

Justification (narrow) the giving/granting of spiritual life - faith - Holy Spiirit and thus a changed relationship with God. Protestants believe that Jesus does this, that Jesus is the Savior, that this is because of Jesus' incarnation, death, resurrection (HIS works) GIVEN to us as "the free gift of God" and "the inheritance from God" and NOT because self does this for self making Jesus and Christianity a sick joke and the Christian Gospel wrong.

IMO, any person or denomination/sect/cult/church that insists the SELF justifies self (even in part) therefore, by necessity, denies that Jesus does - and thus deceives when it or they call Jesus the Savior.

The Just were just because they did good. The wicked were wicked because they did no good. HINT: Matthew 25:34 Then the King shall say to those who will be on his right: ‘Come, you blessed of my Father. Possess the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; 36 naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.
 
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