Bill,
So, there are some of the world that are not sinners? I think THAT was Lamb's point in asking if you believe in original sin; if you do then you hold that every man, woman and child in the world ("ALL") are sinners. Thus, since Jesus died for all sins (which earlier our Calvinist friend insisted IS the case) then He died for all sinners, which means all in the world.
If He died for all sins, He died for all sinners. And since you hold that ALL people on the planet are sinners, well.....
Perhaps there are two options: 1) All for whom Jesus did not die have no sin, they lack a sinful nature and thus never sin, thus Jesus didn't need to die for them and thus did not. 2) Jesus died for all sin, as our friend insists IS the case, and since all have sin, He died for all. Which seems to me is what the Bible says and as far as I know, all Christianity affirmed and believed for over 1500 years and nearly all still do. Now, are all thus personally justified? No, because not all have faith. Thus, the reason not all are saved is not because Jesus didn't die for them but because they don't apprehend/trust/rely upon that. IMO, faith is the variable, not Jesus or the Cross.
Particular,
AGAIN, your very fundamental flaw is your repudiation and elimination of faith in justification, your grave error that if Jesus died for someone, ERGO they are personally justified whether they are a Satanist or Atheist or Muslim or Voodooist since faith is irrelevant. Friend, John 3:16 does not state, "For God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten son that whether or not they have faith, all shall not perish but have eternal life." Friend, read the verse.... just read the words, those black-and-white things formed by letters, what we call "Scripture" (as in ONLY SCRIPTURE), When one eliminates any part of Sola Gratia - Solus Christus - Sola Fide (as you do the last part), horrible heresy results.
Yes, Jesus' act means justification is THERE for all people..... but that alone does not result in personal justification because contrary to your doctrine, faith IS relevant, ".... that whosoever believes."
An illustration: Again, let's say I buy you a 2020 Corvette. I DID that, it's an objective and historic fact. So when I offer it to you, I'm not lying to you, I'm not offering you something I cannot deliever because I never bought you one, I did what I said and did not lie or deceive you (as Calvinists do when they OFFER salvation to people even though they believe it doesn't exist for most people, they do this in the name of God making God the deceiver, the liar). Now, if you apprehend/trust/rely upon my free gift - then it's personally yours and you benefit from it. But if you lack faith/trust/reliance/apprehension.... you never accept it....you never sign the paperwork and receive the keys... your Corvette (a free gift from me) just sits in my garage unaccepted, then you don't benefit from it never receive it. Because you don't personally have it does NOT mandate that I lied about about, that I never actually had it to give to you. Logically, it is not necessary for you to commit the heresy of denying the role of faith (and open the door to universalism, a door so many Calvinists have gone through). The reason not all are personally justified is not because of the absence of the Cross but the absence of faith. It's not necessary to deny the Gospel and repudiate SO, SO many clear and undeniable Scriptures to deny Jesus and His work (and create the HORRIBLE terror of this invention 500 years ago by a few radical Calvinists).
1 John 2:2
He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for
the sins of the whole world.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste
death for everyone.
2 Corinthians 5:14
For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this:
that one has died for all
2 Corinthians 5:15
And
he died for all
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned—every one—to his own way; and the Lord has
laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 2:6
Who gave himself as
a ransom for all.
.... and many, many more that state the same reality.
Let's see the verse that states, "Jesus did
NOT die for all people but
ONLY and
EXCLUSIVELY for a few."
Blessings!
Josiah
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