PERFECT LOVE

[MennoSota]

The Savior is to those who repent of their sins:

Isaiah 59:20 “The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,” declares the Lord.


We get a new heart if we repent of our sins:

Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?


This is what Paul said after Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead:

Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.

Acts 17:30 Therefore, although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent,

Acts 8:22 Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that he may perhaps forgive you for the intent of your heart.

2 Timothy 2:25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,


Love is a feeling it is affection:

Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;


Joy is also feelings, and the saved receive it from the Holy Spirit:

Romans 15:13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

Paul proves that love is a feeling when he says this:

1 Corinthians 13:3 Though I should give away to the poor all that I possess, and even give up my body to be burned—if I am without love, it will do me no good whatever.

Literally one of the worst chop jobs of scripture I have ever read. Congratulations on butchering the meaning of scripture to fit your biased preconceptions. It is masterful like that of so many intra-biblical cults.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Literally one of the worst chop jobs of scripture I have ever read. Congratulations on butchering the meaning of scripture to fit your biased preconceptions. It is masterful like that of so many intra-biblical cults.

It is so strange that someone rejects the scriptures out right like that.

 

[RichWh1]

He knew they were not his

The Word 'know ' in the Greek is a word that indicates a relationship or personal knowledge of a person.
When Jesus will say 'I never knew you ' it will mean that there was no relationship between Jesus and the person.



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[MennoSota]

It is so strange that someone rejects the scriptures out right like that.

It is not scripture I reject. It is your butchering of scripture in an attempt to prop up your unsupported opinion that I reject. Muslims use the Bible like you do. Cult members use the Bible like you do. Let that sink in. Read the whole of scripture. Keep scripture in its context. Refrain from your brutal copy and paste of sentences from the Bible that don't even fit the point of any of the passages in which they reside.
You have created false doctrines with your copy and paste theology.

 

[YourTruthGod]

It is not scripture I reject. It is your butchering of scripture in an attempt to prop up your unsupported opinion that I reject. Muslims use the Bible like you do. Cult members use the Bible like you do. Let that sink in. Read the whole of scripture. Keep scripture in its context. Refrain from your brutal copy and paste of sentences from the Bible that don't even fit the point of any of the passages in which they reside.
You have created false doctrines with your copy and paste theology.

No such truth in what you say, and Jesus says so.

see John 10:35.

 

[MennoSota]

No such truth in what you say, and Jesus says so.

see John 10:35.

Read ALL of John 10. Perhaps you will see your errors.

John 10:1-18,24-30 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand what he was saying to them. So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”

 

[YourTruthGod]

Read ALL of John 10. Perhaps you will see your errors.

John 10:1-18,24-30 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand what he was saying to them. So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”

What exactly to you want to disprove from these scriptures?

 

[Andrew]

I wonder what would happen if we all went back to numberless bibles

 

[YourTruthGod]

I wonder what would happen if we all went back to numberless bibles

We sure live in a blessed time having a Bible easily obtainable and the Internet with Biblehub and Biblegateway.

 

[MennoSota]

What exactly to you want to disprove from these scriptures?

What exactly were you trying to prove with one verse from this passage? Come on, YTG, have a point when you use your out of context prooftext methods.
Jesus very clearly declares God's Sovereign choice in salvation throughout John 10.
God knows whom are His and those whom God has chosen will listen to and obey God. Others will make things up and spend time prooftexting to make themselves feel good.

 

[MennoSota]

I wonder what would happen if we all went back to numberless bibles

We would read the ENTIRE Bible and grasp the context of the writer. Now people make up "silly myths" from verses where they ignore context.

 

[YourTruthGod]

We would read the ENTIRE Bible and grasp the context of the writer. Now people make up "silly myths" from verses where they ignore context.

That's what you say because it disproves Calvinism.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Here's a question: What would we do if we refused to go by what a preacher said and we just got a Bible and started doing what Jesus said?

 

[MennoSota]

Here's a question: What what we do if we refused to go by what a preacher said and we just got a Bible and started doing what Jesus said?

Good question. Since Jesus is God and God wrote all of Scripture, shouldn't we read all of scripture to know what Jesus said?

 

[Andrew]

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:34

Wow I never noticed this before, is the "I said" in all bible translations?

another topic for another time I guess

 

[atpollard]

Here's a question: What would we do if we refused to go by what a preacher said and we just got a Bible and started doing what Jesus said?

BUY A SWORD
[Luk 22:36 NASB] 36 And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.

SELF MUTILATION
[Mat 18:8-9 NASB] 8 "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. 9 "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

HOMELESS
[Luk 18:22 NASB] 22 When Jesus heard [this,] He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

WITHOUT FAMILY
[Luk 14:26 NASB] 26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

A preacher that understands Theology and Greek and historic context might not be a completely bad thing.

 

[YourTruthGod]

What exactly were you trying to prove with one verse from this passage? Come on, YTG, have a point when you use your out of context prooftext methods.
Jesus very clearly declares God's Sovereign choice in salvation throughout John 10.
God knows whom are His and those whom God has chosen will listen to and obey God. Others will make things up and spend time prooftexting to make themselves feel good.

There is no such thing what you preach. Show one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

 

[atpollard]

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:34

Wow I never noticed this before, is the "I said" in all bible translations?

another topic for another time I guess

Yes, the ‘I said’ comes from Psalm 82:6 that Jesus quoted ...

[Psa 82:1-8 NASB]
1 A Psalm of Asaph. God takes His stand in His own congregation; He judges in the midst of the rulers.
2 How long will you judge unjustly And show partiality to the wicked? Selah.
3 Vindicate the weak and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and destitute.
4 Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver [them] out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They do not know nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.
7 "Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like [any] one of the princes."
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth! For it is You who possesses all the nations.

 

[atpollard]

There is no such thing what you preach. Show one scripture that says God saves unbelievers.

Ephesians 2:1-10

 

[Andrew]

We sure live in a blessed time having a Bible easily obtainable and the Internet with Biblehub and Biblegateway.

We do live in a blessed time, it was also a blessing for John Wycliffe to help get the bibles into the hands of common men, God bless those reformers but Protestants also invented the biblical numbering system which was helpful and is useful when used correctly... it's also harmful and easy for one to create a new denomination based on a few verses in a vast database for quick referencing, for instance John 3:16 is the most popular of them hands down but in reading the context we find that the word "world" means "including gentiles", something many stiff necked and hard hearted Jews grumbled and complained about even to this day.
Make no distinction as to who is worthy of the promise when it comes to family heritage or race... God had once given the Jews the Law to obey yes BUT when God reunited incarnate on the world stage in physically presence ever since man first rebelled in the garden, he came for the 'World' he so loved!
Not all of Israel is of Israel, this new and final covenant was given also to the gentiles but received first to the Jew as the bible declares, Gods chosen people is revealed and declared to be non exclusive to Jewish blood but to the fulfilment of the Law for ALL who believe on Him.