Name those sins Christ didn't die for

[psalms 91]

Of course we all have in one way or another

 

[MoreCoffee]

Ya mean to tell me I've been played? :nonono:

I do not think so, somebody said it was happening but I don't believe it.

 

[psalms 91]

Depends on what he meant

 

[visionary]

Graham Cooke writes, "God is not “dealing with” our sin. He is establishing our righteousness. He gave Jesus both as Savior, to bring closure to the old nature, and as Redeemer, to turn a sin habit into righteous behavior. Then he gave the Holy Spirit to empower us in the process of being made in His image. God’s approach to our sin is different than you think. It is not “get rid of this and you can become that." Rather, He says,“you are this, and you have no need of that.” We do not become a new person by changing our behavior. We discover the person we already are in Christ and behave accordingly." I agree.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Graham Cooke writes, "God is not “dealing with” our sin. He is establishing our righteousness. He gave Jesus both as Savior, to bring closure to the old nature, and as Redeemer, to turn a sin habit into righteous behavior. Then he gave the Holy Spirit to empower us in the process of being made in His image. God’s approach to our sin is different than you think. It is not “get rid of this and you can become that." Rather, He says,“you are this, and you have no need of that.” We do not become a new person by changing our behavior. We discover the person we already are in Christ and behave accordingly." I agree.

Aside from a few peculiar usages (grammar that I do not like and that is probably bad grammar) the quote is fairly good

 

[TurtleHare]

Graham Cooke writes, "God is not “dealing with” our inland e is establishing our righteousness. He gave Jesus both as Savior, to bring closure to the old nature, and as Redeemer, to turn a sin habit into righteous behavior. Then he gave the Holy Spirit to empower us in the process of being made in His image. God’s approach to our sin is different than you think. It is not “get rid of this and you can become that." Rather, He says,“you are this, and you have no need of that.” We do not become a new person by changing our behavior. We discover the person we already are in Christ and behave accordingly." I agree.

I like that quote because it is true that our identity is in Jesus the Christ and with that we can see that with the joy of being his child instead of having to try to prove it or earn it.

 

[psalms 91]

I like that quote because it is true that our identity is in Jesus the Christ and with that we can see that with the joy of being his child instead of having to try to prove it or earn it.

True we dont earn it but we can lose it if we are disobedient

 

[Full O Beans]

True we dont earn it but we can lose it if we are disobedient

We can never lose it, if we have it.

 

[psalms 91]

Scripture says otherwise

 

[JPPT1974]

He died for all for Him who knew no sin. And was perfect despite being Full God and Full Man.

 

[Pedrito]

MoreCoffee in Post #44 asked:

What sins do you say Job committed?

That was in reply to Lämmchen's comment re Job in Post #41:

He wasn't sinless though so please don't try to add where scripture doesn't state.

MoreCoffee continued to support his stance in subsequent posts.

Now, I would have thought MoreCoffee would have been familiar with, for instance, the following statements in Gods Most Holy Revelation to us (some of which have already been offered):

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God

Romans 3:10 as it is written: There is none righteous, no not one

Genesis 2:17 but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Job 42:17 And Job died, [being] old and full of days.

Job died. Therefore he had sinned. The detail of his individual sins is not recorded because it is unnecessary. The principle stands regardless.

I think that means MoreCoffe's question can be considered rather meaningless.

I therefore wonder why he asked it.

Could it have been issued as a deflective technique trying to diminish the truth and strength of Lämmchen's pointed statement?

Or is it that, as suggested by (for instance) Posts #123, #125, #128, #129, #130 and #134, he simply likes playing mind games?

Or maybe elements of both?

If mind games do figure in any degree, it must be remembered that not all mind games bring honour to God.

Full O Beans referred to that in Post #135.

I suggest that we must all take care to ensure that we won't end up being weighed in the balances and found wanting

 

[MoreCoffee]

MoreCoffee in Post #44 asked:

That was in reply to Lämmchen's comment re Job in Post #41:

MoreCoffee continued to support his stance in subsequent posts.

Now, I would have thought MoreCoffee would have been familiar with, for instance, the following statements in Gods Most Holy Revelation to us (some of which have already been offered):

Job died. Therefore he had sinned. The detail of his individual sins is not recorded because it is unnecessary. The principle stands regardless.

Jesus died, The reasoning in your post means that Jesus sinned, right? Except he didn't.

I think that means MoreCoffe's question can be considered rather meaningless.

I therefore wonder why he asked it.

Could it have been issued as a deflective technique trying to diminish the truth and strength of Lämmchen's pointed statement?

Or is it that, as suggested by (for instance) Posts #123, #125, #128, #129, #130 and #134, he simply likes playing mind games?

Or maybe elements of both?

If mind games do figure in any degree, it must be remembered that not all mind games bring honour to God.

Full O Beans referred to that in Post #135.

I suggest that we must all take care to ensure that we won't end up being weighed in the balances and found wanting

 

[Alithis]

Jesus died, The reasoning in your post means that Jesus sinned, right? Except he didn't.

dont be silly .. jesus laid down his OWN life - it is in the scripture -and he died after giving up his spirit .. and he did so for the sins of the may ,not his own .
your word playing is getting silly . we all know Job was a man no different than others -he was not born without the sinful blood of Adam in him . the lord Jesus was .

 

[psalms 91]

dont be silly .. jesus laid down his OWN life - it is in the scripture -and he died after giving up his spirit .. and he did so for the sins of the may ,not his own .
your word playing is getting silly . we all know Job was a man no different than others -he was not born without the sinful blood of Adam in him . the lord Jesus was .

Yup and I agree withnthe wordplay

 

[visionary]

I often wonder about sins like those that harm the innocent. God doesn't forgive everything, the scripture is clear what happens to those who harm a child.

 

[psalms 91]

It is also clear about adultrary, God does forgive all except blasphmany against the Holy Spirit. While people like to grade sin it isnt graded by God.

 

[Full O Beans]

I often wonder about sins like those that harm the innocent. God doesn't forgive everything, the scripture is clear what happens to those who harm a child.

Nope. God forgives EVERYTHING that is repented of. EVERYTHING.

 

[visionary]

Nope. God forgives EVERYTHING that is repented of. EVERYTHING.

TRUE Repentence is key.

 

[psalms 91]

Repentance is the key, if we are truly sorrowful and wish to obey God it becomes apparent in our lives

 

[Alithis]

TRUE Repentence is key.

Repentance is the key, if we are truly sorrowful and wish to obey God it becomes apparent in our lives

enough said.