Is the book of Jonah ever quoted in the New Testament?

[NathanH83]

So nobody here can name a place in the New Testament where Jonah is quoted word-for-word?

 

[Andrew]

Correct.


And to address Nathan's point in his hijack of his own thread, that it was the Festival of Dedication and Jesus was walking in the city does NOT mean that ERGO Jesus held that there is a whole bunch of unidentified books that all Jews and Christians accepted as The inerrant, fully/equally canonical, divinely inscripturated words of God and found in every Jewish and Christian Bible until some unknown Protestant took all the Bibles out of the pews and ripped those books out of them. Nope. Our friend says he employs a "LEAP" (sic!) - one that might eclipse the moon - of HIS "logic" to come up with this stuff. Well.... we might question the LEAP and the "LOGIC" but where he is clearly dishonest is when he insists the BIBLE STATES this or that. Anyone who can read knows he is untruthful and dishonest (and disrespectful of Scripture). More honest would be "MY personal speculation.... based on a huge LEAP..... in what to ME seems logical (or at least possible)..... is this or that." But to claim the BIBLE says it or JESUS does is.... well.... we all know.


And... here again.... I always find it remarkable how our friend will quote a verse to show himself to be wrong. He does this a lot, shooting himself in the foot. He quotes John 10:22-23 where we find only these verbs: "walking" and "said." Where is "celebrated" "attended" "participated?" And where is our friend's point, "BECAUSE Jesus (and every one else) held that there is a bunch of books everyone accepts as Scripture and was in all Bibles until some Protestant took them all out of the pews and ripped "them" out."




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No it says "he walked IN the TEMPLE in Solomon's porch"

Solomon's porch was stationed on the outer east court of the temple.

During the feasts of tabernacles, which was a commanded pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the Israelites and which the dedication is to follow in its manner (2 Mac 10:6) the idea was to gather in the court or outer courts of the temple as to dwell/tabernacle with God just outside the Temple, this was to commemorate the Israelites journey through the wilderness as they set up booths/shelter and God being the light leading them to where the temple would be built in Jerusalem.

Jesus sheltered himself with the temple itself because He IS the Christ hence why the Jews (outside the Temple within the courts) gathered to him asking "if you are the Christ tell us plainly"

Jesus attended the feast of dedication in the manner of the feast of tabernacles just as Maccabees described the dedication, only His tent was the actual temple itself.

 

[Andrew]

So nobody here can name a place in the New Testament where Jonah is quoted word-for-word?

Nope.

 

[NathanH83]

Nope.

Really? Wow.
Interesting that even when Jesus himself references Jonah, it’s still not a word for word quote with the phrase “thus saith the Lord” in front of it.

Do you think the New Testament can provide some kind of verification for an Old Testament book without actually quoting it?

 

[Andrew]

Really? Wow.
Interesting that even when Jesus himself references Jonah, it’s still not a word for word quote with the phrase “thus saith the Lord” in front of it.

Do you think the New Testament can provide some kind of verification for an Old Testament book without actually quoting it?

How about...

"Thus saith only the canonical books of 2nd century Jewish non believers"?

 

[NathanH83]

How about...

"Thus saith only the canonical books of 2nd century Jewish non believers"?

Hey. Watch it. The oracles of God were entrusted to the Jews. And of course, that’s talking about the unbelieving Jews who lived after Christ, not the believing Jews from before Christ. Get it right.

 

[Josiah]

it says "he walked IN the TEMPLE in Solomon's porch"

Exactly!


Nathan states that John 10:22-23 (which he quotes) states that Jesus CELEBRATED the Festival of Dedication. Of course, it does not (as, ironically, he himself proves). Anyone who can read knows Nathan is obvously wrong. It only says "then came the Festival of Dedication" and Jesus was WALKING. Nothing about attending or celebrating or participating. Now, is that a reasonable assumption? I'd say yes, but it is wrong to insist (over and over and over) that the Bible says he CELEBRATED the festival. And IMO it's incorrect for you to defend his claim that that's what the verse says (when we all know it does not). In a very unusual step, he calls this a "LEAP" (sic!!!) of HIS "logic." Well, then it's not what the Bible says. This is a very familiar theme of our friend.... completely confusing his own "LEAP" (sic) of his own "logic" for what Scripture actually says (he himself makes this point in this tread) and then insisting God must be stating what he does; no, his speculations are NOT the same (or greater!) than what Scripture says. No one's is.

And let us not forget the context of Nathan's post. See post 15 where our friend hijacks his own thread, bringing it to his familiar theme that some unidentified corpus of books must be accepted by all Jews and Christians as the inerrant, fully/equally canonical, inscripturated words of God and it should be legally required that all publishing houses include them in the Bibles they print. Then see the response in post 16. This begins one of the current discussions here. Please review those two posts.




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[Andrew]

Exactly!


Nathan states that John 10:22-23 (which he quotes) states that Jesus CELEBRATED the Festival of Dedication. Of course, it does not (as, ironically, he himself proves). Anyone who can read knows Nathan is obvously wrong. It only says "then came the Festival of Dedication" and Jesus was WALKING. Nothing about attending or celebrating or participating. Now, is that a reasonable assumption? I'd say yes, but it is wrong to insist (over and over and over) that the Bible says he CELEBRATED the festival. And IMO it's incorrect for you to defend his claim that that's what the verse says (when we all know it does not). In a very unusual step, he calls this a "LEAP" (sic!!!) of HIS "logic." Well, then it's not what the Bible says. This is a very familiar theme of our friend.... completely confusing his own "LEAP" (sic) of his own "logic" for what Scripture actually says (he himself makes this point in this tread) and then insisting God must be stating what he does; no, his speculations are NOT the same (or greater!) than what Scripture says. No one's is.

And let us not forget the context of Nathan's post. See post 15 where our friend hijacks his own thread, bringing it to his familiar theme that some unidentified corpus of books must be accepted by all Jews and Christians as the inerrant, fully/equally canonical, inscripturated words of God and it should be legally required that all publishing houses include them in the Bibles they print. Then see the response in post 16. This begins one of the current discussions here. Please review those two posts.




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Jesus had legs, that's probably how he got to attend the festival ...dedicated to the Temple... in the manner of tabernacle feasts, Solomons porch is sometimes refered to as tabernacles

 

[Josiah]

Jesus had legs

The texts says He walked. It doesn't say He celebrated.

And to our friend's point, the text does not state, "Jesus celebrated the festival precisely because He and every other Jew and Christian accepted that there's just a whole bunch of books (which won't be named) that are the inerrant, fully/equally canonical, divnely inscripturated words of God and these books are in every tome with the word "BIBLE" appearing on the cover but some unknown Protestant will one day gather up all Bibles from the pews and rip out all these books."





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[NathanH83]

How many books of the Old Testament are actually quoted in the New?
Is the book of Numbers ever quoted?
How about Joshua?

 

[hedrick]

Jesus quotes OT prophets, but I'm not immediately coming up with quotes from narrative. He refers to Noah a few times, but without quoting the story.

 

[NathanH83]

Jesus quotes OT prophets, but I'm not immediately coming up with quotes from narrative. He refers to Noah a few times, but without quoting the story.

Yea, I think there’s lots of references. Probably not all quotes though.