Is the book of Jonah ever quoted in the New Testament?

[hedrick]

Nowhere does the Bible state that it's satire. Even Jesus Himself tells it as fact when He stated, “For just as Jonah was in the belly of the sea monster for three days and three nights,...."

Satire doesn't usually come with warning labels. I'm afraid it's like trying to explain a joke. If you can't see it, there's likely not much I can do to help.

 

[NathanH83]

Not really. As far as I can tell, that is simply a reference to the time period. It doesn't show Jesus celebrating. And even if it did, Jews can (and do) celebrate Hanukkah without accepting Maccabees as canonical.

If Jesus celebrated it, which John 10 says that he did, then we should place at least some emphasis on learning about it.

 

[Lamb]

Satire doesn't usually come with warning labels. I'm afraid it's like trying to explain a joke. If you can't see it, there's likely not much I can do to help.

Except Jesus spoke of Jonas as being real.

 

[hedrick]

Except Jesus spoke of Jonas as being real.

I use Harry Potter as an example in Sunday School. Jonah was a well known literary character.

 

[NathanH83]

I use Harry Potter as an example in Sunday School. Jonah was a well known literary character.

Isn’t that interesting?
People will use Harry Potter for examples, but refuse to use any examples from the Apocryphal books. Such hypocrisy.

Yea, Jesus accepted Jonah as real history and a real prophet. It’s the furthest thing from fictional novels. The apocryphal books are real history too.

 

[NathanH83]

Except Jesus spoke of Jonas as being real.

My guess is that John 10:22 tells us that Jesus also accepted Maccabees as being real too, as well as Hebrews 11:35.

 

[NathanH83]

I still don’t see any examples of Jesus quoting the book of Jonah word-for-word verbatim.

And yet we have clear New Testament evidence that Jesus accepted Jonah as real history, and that he was a real prophet.

 

[Origen]

If Jesus celebrated it, which John 10 says that he did,

Untrue! The text of John 10 NEVER states Jesus celebrated it.

 

[Josiah]

Isn’t that interesting?
People will use Harry Potter for examples, but refuse to use any examples from the Apocryphal books. Such hypocrisy.

The point you can't comprehend is that a PERSON or EVENT might be referenced (whether as historical or otherwise) and NOT therefore insisting that any tome that also mentions this MUST be the inerrant, fully canonical, inscripturated words of God and it should be illegal for any publishing house to not include all of them in any tome with "BIBLE" written on the cover in genuine imitation gold letters.

The apocryphal books are real history too.

There are MILLIONS of books containing real history. But that does not mean that ergo each one of them MUST be the inerrant, fully canonical, inscripturated words of God and it should be illegal for any publishing house to not include all of them in any tome with "BIBLE" written on the cover in genuine imitation gold letters.

But I agree with you, the books you are so obsessed about are apocryphal. Just my opinion but I agree with you on that.




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[Josiah]

Untrue! The text of John 10 NEVER states Jesus celebrated it.

.... does reality matter to some?




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[Andrew]

I use Harry Potter as an example in Sunday School. Jonah was a well known literary character.

Many here also don't believe in the global flood in the days of Noah, do you believe Noah is fiction too?

 

[hedrick]

Many here also don't believe in the global flood in the days of Noah, do you believe Noah is fiction too?

Yes, but a different kind. It's clearly a traditional legend. Jonah, however, looks to me a literary work intended from the beginning as satire (though the commentary I checked thinks the satire is mixed with irony). I would guess that the form it appears in the Bible is essentially the original, even if it draws on some legends, and of course the OT reference to a historical Jonah from a much earlier period.

 

[Andrew]

Yes, but a different kind. It's clearly a traditional legend. Jonah, however, looks to me a literary work intended from the beginning as satire (though the commentary I checked thinks the satire is mixed with irony). I would guess that the form it appears in the Bible is essentially the original, even if it draws on some legends, and of course the OT reference to a historical Jonah from a much earlier period.

Are we descendents of Noah, a fictional character?

 

[hedrick]

Are we descendents of Noah, a fictional character?

Obviously not.

 

[Andrew]

Obviously not.

Interesting.

 

[NathanH83]

Are we descendents of Noah, a fictional character?

The Bible says that the Israelites dwelt in the tents of Ham. Ham was a son of Noah. How could anyone think Noah was a fictional character?

 

[Andrew]

The Bible says that the Israelites dwelt in the tents of Ham. Ham was a son of Noah. How could anyone think Noah was a fictional character?

Christians who believe the flood was just a local event make the story of Noah out to be only 'half true' which means it's big fat lie all together.. thus Noah is simply a "traditional legend" but didn't really exists as the Bible states

 

[Andrew]

Untrue! The text of John 10 NEVER states Jesus celebrated it.

Celebrate: to acknowledge a significant day or event with a social gathering

Where was Jesus and when was it?

 

[Origen]

Celebrate: to acknowledge a significant day or event with a social gathering

Where was Jesus and when was it?

No where does the text make that claim and no semantic sleight-of-hand can change that fact.

 

[Andrew]

No where does the text make that claim and no semantic sleight-of-hand can change that fact.

I dunno, the bible mentions the festival, Jesus is at the Temple during the festival, sounds like it meant something more than just him hanging around to annoy the high priests...