Do aliens fit in with Christian beliefs?

[Edward429451]

Have you ever heard of Christian having been abducted by aliens? Me either.

That's because aliens are the lie. They been planning this for a long time. How come we see and take pictures of ufo's all around the earth and moon, and all these stories of them being from Orion or beta riticuli or whereever must be false or else we have seen pictures of the ships way out there on their way to earth. We don't. Not one picture of them "out there" Why is that do you think?

Because they are not intergalactic beings. They are hyper dimensional beings popping in and out of our dimension in interdimensional ships. IOW, they are demonic in nature and are considered to be the enemy, no matter how friendly they may act.

Now in scripture, Believers are given authority over evil spirits in Jesus name.
That's why we dont hear about christians being abducted!

 

[SetFree]

Have you ever heard of Christian having been abducted by aliens? Me either.

That's because aliens are the lie. They been planning this for a long time. How come we see and take pictures of ufo's all around the earth and moon, and all these stories of them being from Orion or beta riticuli or whereever must be false or else we have seen pictures of the ships way out there on their way to earth. We don't. Not one picture of them "out there" Why is that do you think?

Because they are not intergalactic beings. They are hyper dimensional beings popping in and out of our dimension in interdimensional ships. IOW, they are demonic in nature and are considered to be the enemy, no matter how friendly they may act.

Now in scripture, Believers are given authority over evil spirits in Jesus name.
That's why we dont hear about christians being abducted!

I believe they also are angels, and no such thing as aliens from another solar system or whatever.

However, I do believe the craft that some people are seeing, including those U.S. Navy pilots that testified to Congress, can be of good angels or bad angels. And now that one of the main heads behind Lockheed's Skunkworks admitted that we now have ability to take ET home, that means a shadow government might be using them too, so now we got to include those in the UAP ballpark possibilities also.

A UFO is actually what the prophet Ezekiel is trying to describe in Ezekiel 1. He simply had limited objects in his era to compare with. And he saw God's Throne on it. The phrase "colour of amber" in Ezekiel 1:4 in the Hebrew has been defined as 'probably bronze or polished spectrum metal' (Strong's OT:2830).

I'm convinced that other dimension of the heavenly has those objects, and they are not limited to time or space. And just as there are good and bad people driving cars down the road, likewise in that other dimension there are good and bad angels operating those craft.

In the writer's book that the movie Communion was made from, he had a vacation cabin upstate New York, and at one point when they allowed him to see them, he kept asking who they were, and they kept shape-shifting. He finally said they weren't going to expose who they really were.

The Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture shows that for the end of this world in our near future, a war in Heaven will happen between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. Then it says no more place will then be found for Satan in the heavenly, as he and his angels will be kicked out of heaven down to this earth. And it means they are coming in our earthly dimension, in plain sight. Thus I believe the UFO matter that's been going on for a long time has been 'conditioning' of the world for his coming to earth in our dimension to play God. Satan's servants of course want us to believe the UFO's are just aliens from other solar systems, to accept it as a natural thing.

 

[Edward429451]

I believe they also are angels, and no such thing as aliens from another solar system or whatever.

However, I do believe the craft that some people are seeing, including those U.S. Navy pilots that testified to Congress, can be of good angels or bad angels. And now that one of the main heads behind Lockheed's Skunkworks admitted that we now have ability to take ET home, that means a shadow government might be using them too, so now we got to include those in the UAP ballpark possibilities also.

A UFO is actually what the prophet Ezekiel is trying to describe in Ezekiel 1. He simply had limited objects in his era to compare with. And he saw God's Throne on it. The phrase "colour of amber" in Ezekiel 1:4 in the Hebrew has been defined as 'probably bronze or polished spectrum metal' (Strong's OT:2830).

I'm convinced that other dimension of the heavenly has those objects, and they are not limited to time or space. And just as there are good and bad people driving cars down the road, likewise in that other dimension there are good and bad angels operating those craft.

In the writer's book that the movie Communion was made from, he had a vacation cabin upstate New York, and at one point when they allowed him to see them, he kept asking who they were, and they kept shape-shifting. He finally said they weren't going to expose who they really were.

The Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture shows that for the end of this world in our near future, a war in Heaven will happen between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. Then it says no more place will then be found for Satan in the heavenly, as he and his angels will be kicked out of heaven down to this earth. And it means they are coming in our earthly dimension, in plain sight. Thus I believe the UFO matter that's been going on for a long time has been 'conditioning' of the world for his coming to earth in our dimension to play God. Satan's servants of course want us to believe the UFO's are just aliens from other solar systems, to accept it as a natural thing.

Absolutely. We are on the same page Brother!

I think that our govt has back engineered the crashed ship from Roswell and now has a fleet of armed UFO's that the world don't know about yet. There is increasingly more and more sightings of UFO's and this can only mean that they are men in them and are out testing them and people see them.
I think we have a False Flag coming in the future where Aliens from outer space (sic) attack the earth. That is the lie, then other aliens show up and are so called friendly (but they lie!) and even though all of it will be orchestrated, the destruction and death will be real.

So I think men are in some UFO's (Military) and fallen angels or Nephilim in others.

Deliver us from evil in Jesus name, is how to deal with UFO's and aliens, they are all demonic.

 

[SetFree]

Absolutely. We are on the same page Brother!

I think that our govt has back engineered the crashed ship from Roswell and now has a fleet of armed UFO's that the world don't know about yet. There is increasingly more and more sightings of UFO's and this can only mean that they are men in them and are out testing them and people see them.
I think we have a False Flag coming in the future where Aliens from outer space (sic) attack the earth. That is the lie, then other aliens show up and are so called friendly (but they lie!) and even though all of it will be orchestrated, the destruction and death will be real.

So I think men are in some UFO's (Military) and fallen angels or Nephilim in others.

Deliver us from evil in Jesus name, is how to deal with UFO's and aliens, they are all demonic.

You realize that we are probably scaring people here that read this, right? or they just think we're nuts.

I find that the majority of my Christian brethren I converse with have very little understanding about the heavenly dimension. It's at best like a kind of fairy tale dream to them that they want to go to, while not understanding much that is practical about that dimension.

I made some 'materialist-type' Christians angry with my claimed science proof of God thread where I covered the Hebrews 11:3 verse that shows things that are made were not made of things that do appear. That profound verse is scientifically verified by one of the basic laws of Physics that says material matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but only change its state between a solid, liquid, gas, vapor, etc. What that proves, even scientifically, is that something outside... the realm of material matter had to have created matter.

In other words, the creation of the material universe had to have been created by and from a different dimension of existence. That other dimension God's Word calls the heavenly, as The Bible only describes 2 different dimensions of existence (John 3:6). That heavenly dimension is one of Spirit, and not material matter. And Apostle John said that "God is a Spirit" in John 4:24.

So just which... dimension of existence is actually the most REAL and AUTHENTIC one? It has to be that other dimension of Spirit, the heavenly, where God and the angels dwell, the one that not many understand about.

With that above understanding applied to the subject of UFO's, how then might that be?

It takes heeding and keeping God's Word as written to even get that far in understanding the difference about the two dimensions written of in The Bible. Likewise, The Bible also is the main source for understanding supernatural events that are soon to come upon this earth that are to deceive the majority of the whole world at the end just prior to Lord Jesus' future return. The majority of today's Churches are being taught that the coming Antichrist/false-Messiah will simply be some flesh-born world leader, showing they don't really understand the differences about the two dimensions as reality. They may believe Satan and his demons are real, but that they are limited to appearing only... in the heavenly dimension... and can only work invisibly behind flesh man, like with Mark 8:33.

The following event has not happened yet today. Included in that Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture are direct pointers to the very end of this world... and the supernatural part begins with the following casting of Satan and his angels out of the heavenly dimension, and into our earthly dimension, simply because per God's Word, there's only 2 different dimensions, so if not in the heavenly anymore, it has to mean he's coming here in our earthly dimension to work supernaturally...

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV

 

[Edward429451]

You realize that we are probably scaring people here that read this, right? or they just think we're nuts.

I was thinking about that as I posted it! Lol. They prolly do think we're nuts. I realized that, on a site full of Jesus freaks...I must be a Super Jesus Freak! We can't not speak the truth though. Maybe we just been paying closer attention to life than many?
All the clues are there. In scripture and in our world.
Genesis 6 Nephilim anyone? Did fallen Angels see our women and want some?
What about all those 1000's of cattle mutilations over the years, what's that about. They all can't be lies so there's something to it. Blood is drained and certain organs surgically removed from cattle? Why would Aliens need that material?
The book of Enoch tells us. The fallen Angels got punished so severely that the rest of them fear to do it again. And I learned by accident recently that...cattle blood is extremely similar to human blood, they used to use it for transfusions and stuff. So it seems to me that cattle mutilations are aliens gathering genetic material material to clone themselves bodies to live in. Because the hybrid Nephilim are un-redeemable and all of them perished in the great flood. Now their spirits wander in dry places wanting a body to inhabit. That's why Jesus did a lot of casting out evil spirits & demons. They are the spirits of the nephilim. And seeing as their too scared to snatch up our women anymore, they found a loop hole, clone their own bodies to inhabit. It has to be something like that.
And the great lie that scripture speaks of is, we are from outer space, not a different dimension and we seeded your planet with DNA so there is no God. That is the lie. That they are intergalactic visitors.

But no one should be scared of them. We have authority over them in Jesus Name! They have to obey the name which is above all names.

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

 

[Frankj]

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

I would suggest there are four phases every Christian needs to go through who they actually are in Christ:

Learning the words of the scripture, learning the meaning of the words, developing a deeper understanding of what those words fully mean, applying that understanding to daily life activities to find the direction God wants us to go in every situation we face, no matter how seemingly minor, we face as we live each day.

Call it applied Christianity if you wish.

This is not a simple thing, nor an easy one. The true difficulty is when we find ourselves in the condition saying " OK, now what? How do I actually do it?"

 

[Edward429451]

I would suggest there are four phases every Christian needs to go through who they actually are in Christ:

Learning the words of the scripture, learning the meaning of the words, developing a deeper understanding of what those words fully mean, applying that understanding to daily life activities to find the direction God wants us to go in every situation we face, no matter how seemingly minor, we face as we live each day.

Call it applied Christianity if you wish.

This is not a simple thing, nor an easy one. The true difficulty is when we find ourselves in the condition saying " OK, now what? How do I actually do it?"

It's actually pretty simple though it will be hard to do for most folks I think. There's basically two things to do. Number 1 is to spend a lot more time reading the word of God. Right after I had had my accident and knew that God had saved me, I just naturally picked up my bible and started spending 8 to 10 hours a day in it. Absorbing it, meditating on it, dwelling on it, I was in the word so much that I was writing it on my heart. The 2nd thing to do is to basically, pray unceasingly like scripture says to do. So if I wasn't reading I was praying and talking to the Lord. After awhile things started happening around me. The Lord was blessing me and drawing closer to me as I drew closer to Him.

That was fairly easy for me to do because I like to read and was now disabled so I had lots of time on my hands!

And it snow balled. Now it's like, I know that was the Lord, He's like that. I think I figured out why He speaks so vaguely to us most times! So we will ask Him about more details so He gets more conversation with us and He just Loves that!

 

[SetFree]

It's actually pretty simple though it will be hard to do for most folks I think. There's basically two things to do. Number 1 is to spend a lot more time reading the word of God. ....

It was the things going on in the world, especially the political side that I started seeing in the 1970s when in the military overseas, and after returning home. I'm a student of history, so I don't read much fiction, but instead mostly non-fiction. I discovered some very heavy political books by so-called "Insiders" about their plans for a "one world government." Those Insiders included some pretty high ups even in our U.S. government, elected officials even, and especially in connection with Socialists in Great Britain and Europe. One could see U.S. sovereignty going down the drain, high level U.S. leaders selling us out to globalist-internationalism.

So I finally went and got baptized and asked The Father through His Son Jesus Christ what was going on? Where was this world headed? That's when He really hit me, so to speak, giving me a Holy Spirit urge to get down to discipline in His Word. It took about four years to go through the whole Bible line upon line, slowly, using some good scholarly Bible study tools. I know some of my relatives felt I kind of alienated them during that period, but there wasn't anything I could do about it. God had hit me with a task that I could not refuse. And in a way, I felt I had somehow been prepared for that task by my previous experiences overseas and recognizing the political side first.

Even when I was studying about God scattering the lost ten tribes of Israel, and about Tamar and the scarlet thread son Zarah of Genesis 38, it made me recall a place in Spain I had visited named Zaragoza (means 'fortress of Zara'). A friend of mine that was a roommate when we were stationed together in Guam, had been stationed at Zaragoza Air Base, Spain, which was a com base, and target area for the F-4 Phantom fighters flying out of Torrejon, AB where I was stationed. He called me because he got married, and wanted me to come up to Zaragoza to meet his wife. We went out to some old ruins in the city of Zaragoza. I asked him what those were, and he said he didn't know. Years later, while doing Bible study about the ten tribes, The Holy Spirit caused me to remember those old fortress ruins at Zaragoza, Spain.

Zarah was the son of Tamar that stuck his hand out of her womb first, and per tradition a scarlet thread was tied around his hand. But his twin brother Pharez breached pulling Zarah back in, and Pharez came out first, and was thus reckoned as the firstborn, and would be the lineage that David and Lord Jesus would be born from. Zarah disappears out of Bible history not long after that. But apparently, a branch of Zarah's seed had migrated to old Spain, and that to me makes more sense why Apostle Paul planned to visit the brethren in Spain. The royal Milesian line that married in Ireland was from Spain, so there's another possible clue.

 

[SetFree]

But no one should be scared of them. We have authority over them in Jesus Name! They have to obey the name which is above all names.

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

I haven't thought much about a cloning issue. I know that Jude 6 says the fallen angels kept not their first estate, and left their own habitation, which I figure somehow allowed them to live in our earthly dimension and cohabitate with flesh women, as per Genesis 6. I surmise that some of them will do it again at the end of this world, per Lord Jesus' warning of Matthew 24:37-39. And those angels would not have to be of the group of Genesis 6 that have already been assigned to perish, and are in the deepest part of hell (tartaroo) waiting on the judgment (2 Peter 2:4).

The Nephilim, the fallen ones, the offspring of the fallen angels and flesh women, were described as a hybrid race of giants by the Pawnee Indians that brought a huge femur bone into the camp of Buffalo Bill, as he wrote in his autobiography. A doctor present in his expedition recognized what the bone was. The Pawnee said there once lived a race of giants there which were three times the size of a man. And they would run alongside a buffalo herd, pick one up, tear his leg off and eat while running alongside the herd. They mentioned they were wiped out by a flood.

The Smithsonian has tried to hide the historical existence of giants by getting control of any burial mounds they have been found in. There exists many old newspaper articles in the U.S., especially in the northeast regions, where giant human skeletal remains were found in burial mounds, and Smithsonian reps immediately got involved. A friend of mine said her family found a burial mount on their farm many years ago when she was a child, and the skeletal remains were very large, and one of the skulls still had sections of red hair on it.

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased (Rephaim), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
KJV

The above "deceased" in the KJV is actually a mistranslation. The word for "deceased" is actually the proper name Rephaim, which is elsewhere translated to "giants" or "dead", like in Isaiah 17:5 as "Rephaim". Only the Douay-Rheims Bible, and Young's Literal Translation that I have keeps the name as a reference to the Rephaim, or giants.

The above verse tells us those giants will never resurrect. So they represent the truly 'dead' that will never be raised from the dead. All flesh-born dead will be resurrected, so that Isaiah 26:14 verse acts as another Biblical proof that the Rephaim, or giants, really did exist back in earth history.

The following Isaiah 17 Scripture is within a "burden" warning to Damascus about the end of this world...

Isa 17:4-5
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
KJV

Essentially, "... as he that gathereth ears in the valley of the giants," as Rephaim is a proper name for the giants.

Is that just a symbolic reference for regular evil men at the end of this world, or is it revealing that some of the fallen angels are going to do the Genesis 6 thing again? Jesus did say the end of this world would be just like the days of Noah.

 

[Edward429451]

I haven't thought much about a cloning issue. I know that Jude 6 says the fallen angels kept not their first estate, and left their own habitation, which I figure somehow allowed them to live in our earthly dimension and cohabitate with flesh women, as per Genesis 6. I surmise that some of them will do it again at the end of this world, per Lord Jesus' warning of Matthew 24:37-39. And those angels would not have to be of the group of Genesis 6 that have already been assigned to perish, and are in the deepest part of hell (tartaroo) waiting on the judgment (2 Peter 2:4).

The Nephilim, the fallen ones, the offspring of the fallen angels and flesh women, were described as a hybrid race of giants by the Pawnee Indians that brought a huge femur bone into the camp of Buffalo Bill, as he wrote in his autobiography. A doctor present in his expedition recognized what the bone was. The Pawnee said there once lived a race of giants there which were three times the size of a man. And they would run alongside a buffalo herd, pick one up, tear his leg off and eat while running alongside the herd. They mentioned they were wiped out by a flood.

The Smithsonian has tried to hide the historical existence of giants by getting control of any burial mounds they have been found in. There exists many old newspaper articles in the U.S., especially in the northeast regions, where giant human skeletal remains were found in burial mounds, and Smithsonian reps immediately got involved. A friend of mine said her family found a burial mount on their farm many years ago when she was a child, and the skeletal remains were very large, and one of the skulls still had sections of red hair on it.

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased (Rephaim), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
KJV

The above "deceased" in the KJV is actually a mistranslation. The word for "deceased" is actually the proper name Rephaim, which is elsewhere translated to "giants" or "dead", like in Isaiah 17:5 as "Rephaim". Only the Douay-Rheims Bible, and Young's Literal Translation that I have keeps the name as a reference to the Rephaim, or giants.

The above verse tells us those giants will never resurrect. So they represent the truly 'dead' that will never be raised from the dead. All flesh-born dead will be resurrected, so that Isaiah 26:14 verse acts as another Biblical proof that the Rephaim, or giants, really did exist back in earth history.

The following Isaiah 17 Scripture is within a "burden" warning to Damascus about the end of this world...

Isa 17:4-5
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
KJV

Essentially, "... as he that gathereth ears in the valley of the giants," as Rephaim is a proper name for the giants.

Is that just a symbolic reference for regular evil men at the end of this world, or is it revealing that some of the fallen angels are going to do the Genesis 6 thing again? Jesus did say the end of this world would be just like the days of Noah.

No I don't think it could be symbolic reference for evimen. Any kind of reasonable comprehension would gather from Genesis 6:4 that, it's talking about Fallen Angels and our women. And it does say that they were in the land...and also after that, so they're coming back and maybe some of them have or will start dating our women again.

Genesis 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown..../KJV

 

[FredVB]

The universe is very huge, and this said is very much an understatement. I believe that in all the vast universe there would be some other worlds with living beings there. God is the Creator that determines all of the universe being there, and we are on one obscure spot in it, relative to the universe. So I conclude with this logic that God who is the Creator cares for all life in the universe. So I believe that is not just one species on one planet in the universe. The worlds with life which God cares for are likely so very far apart, we would not meet and they would not meet any others of the other worlds. They would not be here as aliens that are encountered here. So accounts of such would really be about something else. I leave that to be considered what. There is life besides us, which we could be much more aware of here, to care about, we can know that God does.

 

[Marston]

I see nothing in Scripture or Tradition that holds that God created life ONLY here. IF (big, big word there) life is discovered elsewhere, IMO that has no impact on Christianity or our understanding of Scripture.

I think like you. If extraterrestrials exist then they too are a part of God's creation.

 

[jswauto]

what do you mean by "aliens"?

 

[jswauto]

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No! No! Double no!

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[jswauto]

Do aliens fit in with Christian beliefs?

These might:

 

[Edward429451]

No I don't think it could be symbolic reference for evimen. Any kind of reasonable comprehension would gather from Genesis 6:4 that, it's talking about Fallen Angels and our women. And it does say that they were in the land...and also after that, so they're coming back and maybe some of them have or will start dating our women again.

Genesis 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown..../KJV

There was two famous UFO researchers, one named jacques vallee (something like that) and the 2nd man was J. Allen Hynek. Neither one of them were Christians. They both arrived at the same conclusion about UFO's, that they are hyper dimensional and demonic in nature.

So that would make UFO's and Aliens, the modern day version of the Nephilim. It would make cattle mutilations explained by their gathering genetic material to fabricate themselves bodies thru cloning processes.

Think about every abduction story you have ever heard. What do they all have in common? The people who were abducted all said that the Aliens were doing something with their reproductive systems.

In scripture, when God comes down in judgment hard against the fallen & disrobed angels who had sex with man's women...the rest of them did not want that same judgement to fall upon them! So they stopped having sex with our women...
Man always looks for loop holes, right?! Where did man learn to do that? The fallen angels also looked for a loop hole and started cloning their own bodies out of genetic material gathered from cows. (How many people know that cow tissue is similar to human tissue? Cow blood is so similar they used to use it for transfusions!

You can almost sit back and remember all the different Alien "pictures" that you have seen...and you can tell which ones were the early models, and which ones were later models!

I guess the Greys were demoically cloned body's 1.1 Lol!

So what's imply? That some UFO's are flying Laboratories? This could be.

Only a few things to remember about Aliens for Christians. #1, you can not trust them even if they seem friendly and invite you onto their ship. Don't do it.
#2, Jesus gave us power over evil spirits in Jesus name. You can order them around in Jesus name and stop them from what they are doing!

 

[torial]

MIT UFO conference of 2012 had a presentation ( MIT UFO Conference Comparison Slides ) that compared Satanic Ritual Abuse and UFO abductions, and there are a large number of overlaps.

I think it is very likely the UFOs are demonic / evil -- and I do believe in the possibility of unfallen aliens elsewhere [analogous to CS Lewis' space trilogy]

 

[Ghost]

I think yes. My take is that there was life here before Adam & Eve, but that they may have been the first of what we call mankind. I'm open to evolution and gods' creations existing in tandem, and I do not believe for a second that god(s) would simply start & stop on Earth. I think personally that it would be insulting to the gods to say that homo sapiens are their first and last creation.

If we take it at face value, it basically says that God created Earth and --- we can stop there. This already recognizes that god is alien to Earth. We would never say God is an alien, but it's worth mentioning because the Bible already tells us that God existed before the heavens and the Earth. So to me, of course aliens can be real. But that's not to say that "aliens" are as great as a god or that a god is an alien, only that there can be life and creation in the Universe prior to our own.


Here are some references I like... To me, it is abundantly clear that God made the stars, the skies, and multiple species. Unless we completely delete part of Genesis, it even suggests that there are multiple species that had children together in the early days.



In Nehemiah 9:6, it makes a clear distinction between Earth & Space:
6 You alone are the Lord. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, along with all their multitude of stars, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You impart life to them all, and the multitudes of heaven worship you.


In Genesis 6:4 we see the first reference to the Nephilim, and a distinction between them and humans:
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God would sleep with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men.


In numbers 13:33, it references them again, stating that we (humans) were much smaller:
33 We even saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak came from the Nephilim), and we seemed like grasshoppers both to ourselves and to them.”

 

[Frankj]

I think personally that it would be insulting to the gods to say that homo sapiens are their first and last creation.

How many gods are there that are capable of creating both a universe and life?

 

[Ghost]

How many gods are there that are capable of creating both a universe and life?

As far as I know, only one. However, I believe that within the one, there are a separation of responsibilities, whether that's in distinct personas, or simply in the way the stories are written.

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
...the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water

Some people believe the Spirit was sent by God, as-in the Spirit of God, and others would say this is just a writing style, representing God, and others may say that the Spirit is a god, and combined with the father and son, they make the trinity.

I believe the Trinity allows for all 3 to act separately, together, and at once. In this context, you could say that at least two created the Earth. God/Father & Spirit.

We can see this separation of titling a bit in Romans 8:14, but many others too:
14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness to our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 And if children, then heirs (namely, heirs of God and also fellow heirs with Christ)

I also think that there are a few references in the Bible that suggest there are lesser gods. Gods that may not be able to create a universe and life:


Deuteronomy 10:17
For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, mighty, and awesome God who is unbiased and takes no bribe

It's not as common, but there are numerous references to the concept of "other gods", and our God being the god of gods, or the most high god.

Your question is tough to answer. I hope my reply here is respectful. In my personal faith, there is a primary god, and several other gods. Three of these gods form the trinity in my personal belief, while others are lesser gods. I guess I could summarize this as the difference between Gods of Heaven and the Universe versus the gods of Earth. To me, they are all gods, but the way I believe this conflicts with the more traditional thought of a "God". Or in other words, you could say that maybe my beliefs would be translated as "God and angels" rather than "Main God and lesser Gods". The naming definitely throws things off, but hope this explanation makes sense. I would say my beliefs are more in line with the Bible than they may appear at face value, due to titling/naming/categorizations.