Do aliens fit in with Christian beliefs?

[Edward429451]

Have you ever heard of Christian having been abducted by aliens? Me either.

That's because aliens are the lie. They been planning this for a long time. How come we see and take pictures of ufo's all around the earth and moon, and all these stories of them being from Orion or beta riticuli or whereever must be false or else we have seen pictures of the ships way out there on their way to earth. We don't. Not one picture of them "out there" Why is that do you think?

Because they are not intergalactic beings. They are hyper dimensional beings popping in and out of our dimension in interdimensional ships. IOW, they are demonic in nature and are considered to be the enemy, no matter how friendly they may act.

Now in scripture, Believers are given authority over evil spirits in Jesus name.
That's why we dont hear about christians being abducted!

 

[SetFree]

Have you ever heard of Christian having been abducted by aliens? Me either.

That's because aliens are the lie. They been planning this for a long time. How come we see and take pictures of ufo's all around the earth and moon, and all these stories of them being from Orion or beta riticuli or whereever must be false or else we have seen pictures of the ships way out there on their way to earth. We don't. Not one picture of them "out there" Why is that do you think?

Because they are not intergalactic beings. They are hyper dimensional beings popping in and out of our dimension in interdimensional ships. IOW, they are demonic in nature and are considered to be the enemy, no matter how friendly they may act.

Now in scripture, Believers are given authority over evil spirits in Jesus name.
That's why we dont hear about christians being abducted!

I believe they also are angels, and no such thing as aliens from another solar system or whatever.

However, I do believe the craft that some people are seeing, including those U.S. Navy pilots that testified to Congress, can be of good angels or bad angels. And now that one of the main heads behind Lockheed's Skunkworks admitted that we now have ability to take ET home, that means a shadow government might be using them too, so now we got to include those in the UAP ballpark possibilities also.

A UFO is actually what the prophet Ezekiel is trying to describe in Ezekiel 1. He simply had limited objects in his era to compare with. And he saw God's Throne on it. The phrase "colour of amber" in Ezekiel 1:4 in the Hebrew has been defined as 'probably bronze or polished spectrum metal' (Strong's OT:2830).

I'm convinced that other dimension of the heavenly has those objects, and they are not limited to time or space. And just as there are good and bad people driving cars down the road, likewise in that other dimension there are good and bad angels operating those craft.

In the writer's book that the movie Communion was made from, he had a vacation cabin upstate New York, and at one point when they allowed him to see them, he kept asking who they were, and they kept shape-shifting. He finally said they weren't going to expose who they really were.

The Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture shows that for the end of this world in our near future, a war in Heaven will happen between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. Then it says no more place will then be found for Satan in the heavenly, as he and his angels will be kicked out of heaven down to this earth. And it means they are coming in our earthly dimension, in plain sight. Thus I believe the UFO matter that's been going on for a long time has been 'conditioning' of the world for his coming to earth in our dimension to play God. Satan's servants of course want us to believe the UFO's are just aliens from other solar systems, to accept it as a natural thing.

 

[Edward429451]

I believe they also are angels, and no such thing as aliens from another solar system or whatever.

However, I do believe the craft that some people are seeing, including those U.S. Navy pilots that testified to Congress, can be of good angels or bad angels. And now that one of the main heads behind Lockheed's Skunkworks admitted that we now have ability to take ET home, that means a shadow government might be using them too, so now we got to include those in the UAP ballpark possibilities also.

A UFO is actually what the prophet Ezekiel is trying to describe in Ezekiel 1. He simply had limited objects in his era to compare with. And he saw God's Throne on it. The phrase "colour of amber" in Ezekiel 1:4 in the Hebrew has been defined as 'probably bronze or polished spectrum metal' (Strong's OT:2830).

I'm convinced that other dimension of the heavenly has those objects, and they are not limited to time or space. And just as there are good and bad people driving cars down the road, likewise in that other dimension there are good and bad angels operating those craft.

In the writer's book that the movie Communion was made from, he had a vacation cabin upstate New York, and at one point when they allowed him to see them, he kept asking who they were, and they kept shape-shifting. He finally said they weren't going to expose who they really were.

The Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture shows that for the end of this world in our near future, a war in Heaven will happen between Archangel Michael and his angels, vs. Satan and his angels. Then it says no more place will then be found for Satan in the heavenly, as he and his angels will be kicked out of heaven down to this earth. And it means they are coming in our earthly dimension, in plain sight. Thus I believe the UFO matter that's been going on for a long time has been 'conditioning' of the world for his coming to earth in our dimension to play God. Satan's servants of course want us to believe the UFO's are just aliens from other solar systems, to accept it as a natural thing.

Absolutely. We are on the same page Brother!

I think that our govt has back engineered the crashed ship from Roswell and now has a fleet of armed UFO's that the world don't know about yet. There is increasingly more and more sightings of UFO's and this can only mean that they are men in them and are out testing them and people see them.
I think we have a False Flag coming in the future where Aliens from outer space (sic) attack the earth. That is the lie, then other aliens show up and are so called friendly (but they lie!) and even though all of it will be orchestrated, the destruction and death will be real.

So I think men are in some UFO's (Military) and fallen angels or Nephilim in others.

Deliver us from evil in Jesus name, is how to deal with UFO's and aliens, they are all demonic.

 

[SetFree]

Absolutely. We are on the same page Brother!

I think that our govt has back engineered the crashed ship from Roswell and now has a fleet of armed UFO's that the world don't know about yet. There is increasingly more and more sightings of UFO's and this can only mean that they are men in them and are out testing them and people see them.
I think we have a False Flag coming in the future where Aliens from outer space (sic) attack the earth. That is the lie, then other aliens show up and are so called friendly (but they lie!) and even though all of it will be orchestrated, the destruction and death will be real.

So I think men are in some UFO's (Military) and fallen angels or Nephilim in others.

Deliver us from evil in Jesus name, is how to deal with UFO's and aliens, they are all demonic.

You realize that we are probably scaring people here that read this, right? or they just think we're nuts.

I find that the majority of my Christian brethren I converse with have very little understanding about the heavenly dimension. It's at best like a kind of fairy tale dream to them that they want to go to, while not understanding much that is practical about that dimension.

I made some 'materialist-type' Christians angry with my claimed science proof of God thread where I covered the Hebrews 11:3 verse that shows things that are made were not made of things that do appear. That profound verse is scientifically verified by one of the basic laws of Physics that says material matter can neither be created nor destroyed, but only change its state between a solid, liquid, gas, vapor, etc. What that proves, even scientifically, is that something outside... the realm of material matter had to have created matter.

In other words, the creation of the material universe had to have been created by and from a different dimension of existence. That other dimension God's Word calls the heavenly, as The Bible only describes 2 different dimensions of existence (John 3:6). That heavenly dimension is one of Spirit, and not material matter. And Apostle John said that "God is a Spirit" in John 4:24.

So just which... dimension of existence is actually the most REAL and AUTHENTIC one? It has to be that other dimension of Spirit, the heavenly, where God and the angels dwell, the one that not many understand about.

With that above understanding applied to the subject of UFO's, how then might that be?

It takes heeding and keeping God's Word as written to even get that far in understanding the difference about the two dimensions written of in The Bible. Likewise, The Bible also is the main source for understanding supernatural events that are soon to come upon this earth that are to deceive the majority of the whole world at the end just prior to Lord Jesus' future return. The majority of today's Churches are being taught that the coming Antichrist/false-Messiah will simply be some flesh-born world leader, showing they don't really understand the differences about the two dimensions as reality. They may believe Satan and his demons are real, but that they are limited to appearing only... in the heavenly dimension... and can only work invisibly behind flesh man, like with Mark 8:33.

The following event has not happened yet today. Included in that Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture are direct pointers to the very end of this world... and the supernatural part begins with the following casting of Satan and his angels out of the heavenly dimension, and into our earthly dimension, simply because per God's Word, there's only 2 different dimensions, so if not in the heavenly anymore, it has to mean he's coming here in our earthly dimension to work supernaturally...

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV

 

[Edward429451]

You realize that we are probably scaring people here that read this, right? or they just think we're nuts.

I was thinking about that as I posted it! Lol. They prolly do think we're nuts. I realized that, on a site full of Jesus freaks...I must be a Super Jesus Freak! We can't not speak the truth though. Maybe we just been paying closer attention to life than many?
All the clues are there. In scripture and in our world.
Genesis 6 Nephilim anyone? Did fallen Angels see our women and want some?
What about all those 1000's of cattle mutilations over the years, what's that about. They all can't be lies so there's something to it. Blood is drained and certain organs surgically removed from cattle? Why would Aliens need that material?
The book of Enoch tells us. The fallen Angels got punished so severely that the rest of them fear to do it again. And I learned by accident recently that...cattle blood is extremely similar to human blood, they used to use it for transfusions and stuff. So it seems to me that cattle mutilations are aliens gathering genetic material material to clone themselves bodies to live in. Because the hybrid Nephilim are un-redeemable and all of them perished in the great flood. Now their spirits wander in dry places wanting a body to inhabit. That's why Jesus did a lot of casting out evil spirits & demons. They are the spirits of the nephilim. And seeing as their too scared to snatch up our women anymore, they found a loop hole, clone their own bodies to inhabit. It has to be something like that.
And the great lie that scripture speaks of is, we are from outer space, not a different dimension and we seeded your planet with DNA so there is no God. That is the lie. That they are intergalactic visitors.

But no one should be scared of them. We have authority over them in Jesus Name! They have to obey the name which is above all names.

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

 

[Frankj]

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

I would suggest there are four phases every Christian needs to go through who they actually are in Christ:

Learning the words of the scripture, learning the meaning of the words, developing a deeper understanding of what those words fully mean, applying that understanding to daily life activities to find the direction God wants us to go in every situation we face, no matter how seemingly minor, we face as we live each day.

Call it applied Christianity if you wish.

This is not a simple thing, nor an easy one. The true difficulty is when we find ourselves in the condition saying " OK, now what? How do I actually do it?"

 

[Edward429451]

I would suggest there are four phases every Christian needs to go through who they actually are in Christ:

Learning the words of the scripture, learning the meaning of the words, developing a deeper understanding of what those words fully mean, applying that understanding to daily life activities to find the direction God wants us to go in every situation we face, no matter how seemingly minor, we face as we live each day.

Call it applied Christianity if you wish.

This is not a simple thing, nor an easy one. The true difficulty is when we find ourselves in the condition saying " OK, now what? How do I actually do it?"

It's actually pretty simple though it will be hard to do for most folks I think. There's basically two things to do. Number 1 is to spend a lot more time reading the word of God. Right after I had had my accident and knew that God had saved me, I just naturally picked up my bible and started spending 8 to 10 hours a day in it. Absorbing it, meditating on it, dwelling on it, I was in the word so much that I was writing it on my heart. The 2nd thing to do is to basically, pray unceasingly like scripture says to do. So if I wasn't reading I was praying and talking to the Lord. After awhile things started happening around me. The Lord was blessing me and drawing closer to me as I drew closer to Him.

That was fairly easy for me to do because I like to read and was now disabled so I had lots of time on my hands!

And it snow balled. Now it's like, I know that was the Lord, He's like that. I think I figured out why He speaks so vaguely to us most times! So we will ask Him about more details so He gets more conversation with us and He just Loves that!

 

[SetFree]

It's actually pretty simple though it will be hard to do for most folks I think. There's basically two things to do. Number 1 is to spend a lot more time reading the word of God. ....

It was the things going on in the world, especially the political side that I started seeing in the 1970s when in the military overseas, and after returning home. I'm a student of history, so I don't read much fiction, but instead mostly non-fiction. I discovered some very heavy political books by so-called "Insiders" about their plans for a "one world government." Those Insiders included some pretty high ups even in our U.S. government, elected officials even, and especially in connection with Socialists in Great Britain and Europe. One could see U.S. sovereignty going down the drain, high level U.S. leaders selling us out to globalist-internationalism.

So I finally went and got baptized and asked The Father through His Son Jesus Christ what was going on? Where was this world headed? That's when He really hit me, so to speak, giving me a Holy Spirit urge to get down to discipline in His Word. It took about four years to go through the whole Bible line upon line, slowly, using some good scholarly Bible study tools. I know some of my relatives felt I kind of alienated them during that period, but there wasn't anything I could do about it. God had hit me with a task that I could not refuse. And in a way, I felt I had somehow been prepared for that task by my previous experiences overseas and recognizing the political side first.

Even when I was studying about God scattering the lost ten tribes of Israel, and about Tamar and the scarlet thread son Zarah of Genesis 38, it made me recall a place in Spain I had visited named Zaragoza (means 'fortress of Zara'). A friend of mine that was a roommate when we were stationed together in Guam, had been stationed at Zaragoza Air Base, Spain, which was a com base, and target area for the F-4 Phantom fighters flying out of Torrejon, AB where I was stationed. He called me because he got married, and wanted me to come up to Zaragoza to meet his wife. We went out to some old ruins in the city of Zaragoza. I asked him what those were, and he said he didn't know. Years later, while doing Bible study about the ten tribes, The Holy Spirit caused me to remember those old fortress ruins at Zaragoza, Spain.

Zarah was the son of Tamar that stuck his hand out of her womb first, and per tradition a scarlet thread was tied around his hand. But his twin brother Pharez breached pulling Zarah back in, and Pharez came out first, and was thus reckoned as the firstborn, and would be the lineage that David and Lord Jesus would be born from. Zarah disappears out of Bible history not long after that. But apparently, a branch of Zarah's seed had migrated to old Spain, and that to me makes more sense why Apostle Paul planned to visit the brethren in Spain. The royal Milesian line that married in Ireland was from Spain, so there's another possible clue.

 

[SetFree]

But no one should be scared of them. We have authority over them in Jesus Name! They have to obey the name which is above all names.

guess you could say that most Christians are in an identity crises. They do not know who they are in Christ. This is not the sunday school Christianity they taught me in sunday school! This is real stuff.

I haven't thought much about a cloning issue. I know that Jude 6 says the fallen angels kept not their first estate, and left their own habitation, which I figure somehow allowed them to live in our earthly dimension and cohabitate with flesh women, as per Genesis 6. I surmise that some of them will do it again at the end of this world, per Lord Jesus' warning of Matthew 24:37-39. And those angels would not have to be of the group of Genesis 6 that have already been assigned to perish, and are in the deepest part of hell (tartaroo) waiting on the judgment (2 Peter 2:4).

The Nephilim, the fallen ones, the offspring of the fallen angels and flesh women, were described as a hybrid race of giants by the Pawnee Indians that brought a huge femur bone into the camp of Buffalo Bill, as he wrote in his autobiography. A doctor present in his expedition recognized what the bone was. The Pawnee said there once lived a race of giants there which were three times the size of a man. And they would run alongside a buffalo herd, pick one up, tear his leg off and eat while running alongside the herd. They mentioned they were wiped out by a flood.

The Smithsonian has tried to hide the historical existence of giants by getting control of any burial mounds they have been found in. There exists many old newspaper articles in the U.S., especially in the northeast regions, where giant human skeletal remains were found in burial mounds, and Smithsonian reps immediately got involved. A friend of mine said her family found a burial mount on their farm many years ago when she was a child, and the skeletal remains were very large, and one of the skulls still had sections of red hair on it.

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased (Rephaim), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
KJV

The above "deceased" in the KJV is actually a mistranslation. The word for "deceased" is actually the proper name Rephaim, which is elsewhere translated to "giants" or "dead", like in Isaiah 17:5 as "Rephaim". Only the Douay-Rheims Bible, and Young's Literal Translation that I have keeps the name as a reference to the Rephaim, or giants.

The above verse tells us those giants will never resurrect. So they represent the truly 'dead' that will never be raised from the dead. All flesh-born dead will be resurrected, so that Isaiah 26:14 verse acts as another Biblical proof that the Rephaim, or giants, really did exist back in earth history.

The following Isaiah 17 Scripture is within a "burden" warning to Damascus about the end of this world...

Isa 17:4-5
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
KJV

Essentially, "... as he that gathereth ears in the valley of the giants," as Rephaim is a proper name for the giants.

Is that just a symbolic reference for regular evil men at the end of this world, or is it revealing that some of the fallen angels are going to do the Genesis 6 thing again? Jesus did say the end of this world would be just like the days of Noah.

 

[Edward429451]

I haven't thought much about a cloning issue. I know that Jude 6 says the fallen angels kept not their first estate, and left their own habitation, which I figure somehow allowed them to live in our earthly dimension and cohabitate with flesh women, as per Genesis 6. I surmise that some of them will do it again at the end of this world, per Lord Jesus' warning of Matthew 24:37-39. And those angels would not have to be of the group of Genesis 6 that have already been assigned to perish, and are in the deepest part of hell (tartaroo) waiting on the judgment (2 Peter 2:4).

The Nephilim, the fallen ones, the offspring of the fallen angels and flesh women, were described as a hybrid race of giants by the Pawnee Indians that brought a huge femur bone into the camp of Buffalo Bill, as he wrote in his autobiography. A doctor present in his expedition recognized what the bone was. The Pawnee said there once lived a race of giants there which were three times the size of a man. And they would run alongside a buffalo herd, pick one up, tear his leg off and eat while running alongside the herd. They mentioned they were wiped out by a flood.

The Smithsonian has tried to hide the historical existence of giants by getting control of any burial mounds they have been found in. There exists many old newspaper articles in the U.S., especially in the northeast regions, where giant human skeletal remains were found in burial mounds, and Smithsonian reps immediately got involved. A friend of mine said her family found a burial mount on their farm many years ago when she was a child, and the skeletal remains were very large, and one of the skulls still had sections of red hair on it.

Isa 26:14
14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased (Rephaim), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
KJV

The above "deceased" in the KJV is actually a mistranslation. The word for "deceased" is actually the proper name Rephaim, which is elsewhere translated to "giants" or "dead", like in Isaiah 17:5 as "Rephaim". Only the Douay-Rheims Bible, and Young's Literal Translation that I have keeps the name as a reference to the Rephaim, or giants.

The above verse tells us those giants will never resurrect. So they represent the truly 'dead' that will never be raised from the dead. All flesh-born dead will be resurrected, so that Isaiah 26:14 verse acts as another Biblical proof that the Rephaim, or giants, really did exist back in earth history.

The following Isaiah 17 Scripture is within a "burden" warning to Damascus about the end of this world...

Isa 17:4-5
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
KJV

Essentially, "... as he that gathereth ears in the valley of the giants," as Rephaim is a proper name for the giants.

Is that just a symbolic reference for regular evil men at the end of this world, or is it revealing that some of the fallen angels are going to do the Genesis 6 thing again? Jesus did say the end of this world would be just like the days of Noah.

No I don't think it could be symbolic reference for evimen. Any kind of reasonable comprehension would gather from Genesis 6:4 that, it's talking about Fallen Angels and our women. And it does say that they were in the land...and also after that, so they're coming back and maybe some of them have or will start dating our women again.

Genesis 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown..../KJV