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Of course you're not.
I asked: Who is John Calvin? I never said I didn't know him.
You have no idea what John Calvin actually wrote. You don't know, yet you hate him. Isn't that what bigots do?
Now come on, it can't be that hard for you to actually crack open an article written by John Calvin and argue against him. Here's your chance to perhaps know what you are talking about.
You bring him up. You must know what he has written. Be a good dear and share your vast knowledge with us.

You claim you are saved, right?

You claim you are once saved always saved, right?

Then will you try something?

Could you repent for following the teachings you have?

Could you tell God you want His Truth and repent for everything you think you know, and then call on Him to help you?

What will it hurt you??

You must know that you will always be on the wrong side and not on the side of truth if you preach we can't obey.
 

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All the years I have been debating, I have noticed a strange unnatural writing style in some people.

Would you not rather try to help someone with OCD, or make fun of the one trying to help?
lol neither you or Josiah have OCD and no I am not making fun of that condition I just find that pointing out something insignificant as a dot to be humorous.
Lighten up friend, I mean no offense
 

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You think you sound like a person whose heart and mind is right with God?

It is not a period at the end of a sentence. I take it off when I reply to his posts. It is some kind of extra period way below his name.

You going against me the way you do is rude.
Are we seriously arguing over a dot now?
Stop accusing me of ungodliness over a dot, this is ridiculous
 

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lol neither you or Josiah have OCD and no I am not making fun of that condition I just find that pointing out something insignificant as a dot to be humorous.
Lighten up friend, I mean no offense

OCD is a serious thing. No, I don't have it, but I know how people can get rid of it.

So honestly, do you think it could be an obsession to put a period way below the end of a reply?
 

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You claim you are saved, right?

You claim you are once saved always saved, right?

Then will you try something?

Could you repent for following the teachings you have?

Could you tell God you want His Truth and repent for everything you think you know, and then call on Him to help you?

What will it hurt you??

You must know that you will always be on the wrong side and not on the side of truth if you preach we can't obey.

Share what John Calvin said. Since you bring him up, you must know his works thoroughly in order to declare them evil.
I am an adopted child of God. Redeemed by His grace and mercy. Living by the faith He has allotted to me.
Once adopted, always adopted. (See the story of the prodigal son. Even in his sin the Father waited for him and welcomed him.
I cannot repent for believing what God has shared with me in scripture. He has chosen me. He has redeemed me. He is sanctifying me.
The issue is not my relationship with God. The issue is your stumbling block that you demand all other stumble over with you. Myself...and others...we keep telling you where the stumbling blocks are and you keep stumbling. It is rather sad because you keep demanding that we stumble will you. That would be foolishness to all of us.
The wrong side is your teaching of salvation by works apart from grace. No one here is on your side. You stand alone while we keep telling you to watch out for the stumbling block. You refuse to listen.
 

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What a ridiculous conclusion. The demons do not have faith; they merely have comprehension.

You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
James 2:19 -

They don't have faith? How do they believe?



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You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
James 2:19 -

They don't have faith? How do they believe?
I am coming to believe that many Christians do not know what Faith is or the word means. I am both surprised at that and disappointed.
 

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This is, without a doubt, one of the most exhausting threads I've ever read.
 

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This is, without a doubt, one of the most exhausting threads I've ever read.


Biblical wisdom and sound doctrine are often desperately needed!

Perhaps you can contribute? But I warn you, it often IS exhausting.
 

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Share what John Calvin said. Since you bring him up, you must know his works thoroughly in order to declare them evil.
I am an adopted child of God. Redeemed by His grace and mercy. Living by the faith He has allotted to me.
Once adopted, always adopted. (See the story of the prodigal son. Even in his sin the Father waited for him and welcomed him.
I cannot repent for believing what God has shared with me in scripture. He has chosen me. He has redeemed me. He is sanctifying me.
The issue is not my relationship with God. The issue is your stumbling block that you demand all other stumble over with you. Myself...and others...we keep telling you where the stumbling blocks are and you keep stumbling. It is rather sad because you keep demanding that we stumble will you. That would be foolishness to all of us.
The wrong side is your teaching of salvation by works apart from grace. No one here is on your side. You stand alone while we keep telling you to watch out for the stumbling block. You refuse to listen.

You deny it, but it is obvious you were taught your beliefs from man.

Do you want to know how I know?
 

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You deny it, but it is obvious you were taught your beliefs from man.

Do you want to know how I know?
Because you read that persons writings?
Seems you would accuse the Apostles of the same thing. I admit it. Jesus taught me all I know. Guilty as charged
 

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Because you read that persons writings?
Seems you would accuse the Apostles of the same thing. I admit it. Jesus taught me all I know. Guilty as charged

Nowhere anywhere does Jesus say no one can believe and obey unless he saves them first.

That is to go against obeying God.
 

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Please tell us why.
Re-Read this whole thread and you'll see the constant back and forth about the central doctrine of the Christian faith, which is justification. It's been said that if you don't understand how justification works, it will affect how you understand every other doctrine of the Christian faith.

Lammchen said this to you:

"He gave you the verses you requested. You are also not understanding what he wrote since you suggest he said that it is stealing to get faith. He did not say that so you are not paying attention."

When you replied with this:

"I definitely am paying attention. You both don't understand then. No wonder he doesn't deal with anything I said in the my posts. He just posts scriptures that I have already shown to be wrong. People cannot make up in their own words what they want the scriptures to say."

There are no Scriptures that are wrong. To say that there are Scriptures that are wrong is to say God is wrong and to say you've proven that God is wrong, is to place yourself as both judge of God and above God.

If I were in this conversation, this is the reply that would cause me to stop talking with you as your statement is blasphemous and you have demonstrated you are one who both can not and will not be taught by others who do know what they are talking about.
 

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Biblical wisdom and sound doctrine are often desperately needed!

Perhaps you can contribute? But I warn you, it often IS exhausting.
I would if this thread weren't bouncing all over the place. The biggest problem is that the OP does not have a proper understanding of justification and this has infected all his other beliefs about Christianity. He also has zero understanding of the sacraments and the proper distinction between Law and Gospel.
 
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