Adam and Eve thrown out of garden for their protection?

[Lamb]

I was reading a Q and A on a ministry website and came across this:

"God would actually banish Adam and Eve from the garden for their protection so that they would not eat of the tree of life (Genesis 3:24). It they had eaten of that tree in their sinful state, they would have existed forever as fallen beings without hope."

What do you think of that statement?

 

[MennoSota]

I was reading a Q and A on a ministry website and came across this:

"God would actually banish Adam and Eve from the garden for their protection so that they would not eat of the tree of life (Genesis 3:24). It they had eaten of that tree in their sinful state, they would have existed forever as fallen beings without hope."

What do you think of that statement?

I think it portrays God as less than fully Sovereign over His creation.
Adam and Eve were cast out because they broke the covenant with God.

 

[Josiah]

Some people think WAY too much.

 

[FredVB]

I was reading a Q and A on a ministry website and came across this:

"God would actually banish Adam and Eve from the garden for their protection so that they would not eat of the tree of life (Genesis 3:24). It they had eaten of that tree in their sinful state, they would have existed forever as fallen beings without hope."

What do you think of that statement?

There may be something to this. It is interesting to consider. But we are just told that Yahweh did not permit Adam and Eve to remain in the Garden. We don't know for certainty what would be the case for what isn't said for how it would be otherwise. With justice with which Yahweh always acts, the two could not be permitted to remain with the perfection meant for them (though that which was meant for us remains a model for us to approach though we work with the sweat of labor), and they were left with the world with spreading curse from their sinful ways and the sinful ways of all humanity after them.

Some people think WAY too much.

What? Why say some people think too much? Would you say there is something to be preferred over reasoning that God meant for us?

 

[psalms 91]

I agree with it

 

[Andrew]

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:22-24

and what if sinful man took from the tree of life and live forever?
Indeed God was looking out for our best interest and it had nothing to do with some make believe covenant that was broken, God said man was good, and saw his creation was good, he gave man dominance over the land, and God said be fruitfull and multiply BUT there is one tree you must not take fruit from for there will be a grave consequence. There was no need for a covenant until after the fall Menno, the Sabbath was never broken.

 

[Albion]

The bottom line is that this scenario is not without some logic, but it still is a big guess. There is nothing specific in Genesis that would confirm this theory.

 

[Arsenios]

The EOC understands God as Love, and that thus each and every element of the "curse" of God upon Adam and Eve is actually a great blessing... And that yes, access to the Tree of Life was taken from them for their own good and unto their Salvation...

I mean, look what happens to men deprived of labors...

And women who remain barren...

In addition, it is a commonly held understanding that Adam stayed at the Gates of this Paradise until he died, weeping to the very end...

Because he could remember what he had lost...


Arsenios

 

[MennoSota]

The EOC understands God as Love, and that thus each and every element of the "curse" of God upon Adam and Eve is actually a great blessing... And that yes, access to the Tree of Life was taken from them for their own good and unto their Salvation...

I mean, look what happens to men deprived of labors...

And women who remain barren...

In addition, it is a commonly held understanding that Adam stayed at the Gates of this Paradise until he died, weeping to the very end...

Because he could remember what he had lost...


Arsenios

The curse is a blessing? Tell that to the goats.
Arsenios, your claim of Adam staying at the gates of Paradise being a commonly held understanding is perhaps only common to you. The reality is that very few hold such a view. It sounds like it is a mythical teaching from some obscure mystic.

 

[Arsenios]

The curse is a blessing?

Yes... Those curses were made in love for the future Salvation of man...

They were not made by God out of spite and malice...

Tell that to the goats.

Tell God His is malicious... (But do not, Please!)

Give a man a life of ease in which he has no work needed, and you will find a spoiled child...

Arsenios, your claim of Adam staying at the gates of Paradise being a commonly held understanding is perhaps only common to you.

The Latin Church is the only Christian group larger than the EOC...

The reality is that very few hold such a view.

It is not dogma, but is a very commonly held theologoumenon, or pious opinion, within the Church...

It sounds like it is a mythical teaching from some obscure mystic.

Well, our Saints do tend to avoid Facebook...


Arsenios