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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    albion This is error, scripture says nothing about Christ made something possible, especially in the matter of Justification, His Death Justified them He died for, not made it possible, away with such nonsense ! Isa 53:10-11 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Meaning His death Justified the ungodly sinners He died for. Made them Righteous !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I have given plenty of text and explanation and its been either ignored or flat out rejected, bottom line Christs Death Justified them He died for, now you either believe it or you dont, simple as that.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Simple, Christs death Justified the ungodly.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    They are not lost in their sins because they are saved by Christ. But if you teach people who He died for remain lost and unsaved, then that takes away from the saving efficacy of Christ. Now if you dont believe Christ saves people by His death for them, thats unbelief !Duh
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Not interested. Im concerned that people believe and teach that people Christ died for, still remain unjust and can eventually die in their sins that He died to redeem them from. That means they give zero effect to Christs redeeming death.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    It detracts because it is believed that people Christ died for, remain lost in their sins.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justification an act of God's Grace ! 2 #2 Those whom Christ was made sin for, by imputation, having their sins charged to Him as their Surety, they as He was for them, Justified at His Resurrection, or we can say at their Resurrection with Him ! This is True because of the testimony Rom 4:25...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So do you want to discuss it ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Okay, I put time into post 359 explaining that point, do you care to discuss it ? Its in line with the thread heading.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You are not teachable, I have been explaining things already and you reject it.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Again, He was delivered for [because of] our sins, and He was raised again for [because of] our Justification. See Christs resurrection is a testification that all for whom sins He died, their sins being put away, they are Justified before God. Now do you deny the testimony of the resurrection...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Rom 4:25 says He was raised for our Justification 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    So its obvious you dont accept that people who Christ died for, died with Him and through His death for them were Justified, when He rose, it was for /because of their Justification befor God Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our...
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    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Notice Micah 7:18 the mercy and forgiveness is only for a specified remnant, not all, see its limited !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justification an act of God's Grace ! Justification an act of God's Grace Rom 3:24 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: in that He Remits or does not impute the sins of the elect, the Church, His Sheep upon them and accepts them as Righteous ...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    One obeys from the Heart because they were already Justified by the death of Christ. Obedience is the fruit of Justification not the cause. When Christ died in 33 ad everyone one He died for died with Him, they also rose with Him Justified Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Yes, those for whom Christ died, died also , was crucified with Him, thats what Paul said, I just shared that Gal 2:20 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Its simple. Lets say someone believes in Christ in 2023, when did Christ die for them ? Was it in 2023 when they believed, or in 33 ad before they existed ?
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Yes he was talking to believers but he or they werent believers when Christ was crucified and they with Christ, it was before they were born sinners.
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