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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    He breathed into him after he made him from clay So whats your point ? How does this tie into God created some people for hell and destruction, vessels of wrath ? Bible said God made the wicked for the day of their destruction Prov 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    messy Adam was a lifeless piece of clay when made by God, he was dust of the earth.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Is Jeremiah speaking about Adam ?
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    Faith

    Faith is an Evidence of Union with Christ ! Faith in Christ does not give us a spiritual union with Christ, but is the evidence of such a Union with Christ. For faith is the evidence of things hoped for Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Lol So does the Potter know how to make a vessel that cant collapse ? If it collapsed once what makes it so sure it wont collapse again ? Thats a reflection of the abilty of the potter.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith and Faithfulness uses the same greek word, faithfulness is the fruit of the Spirit as well as Faith Yes Faith is a fruit, you deny the scripture Gal 5:22 and its a Gift because its provided by the Spirit which is a Gift.
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    Faith

    In Rom 9 its revealed that some people were made by God to be fitted for destruction Rom 9:20-22 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Justification an act of God's Grace ! 3 #3 Now those who are Justified by Christ's death, verified by His resurrection from the dead Rom 4:25, They have at least one more Justification to experience , that is in their consciousness, that verdict must be passed in their persons, this is done in...
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    Faith

    Oh No, He created them for destruction in Rom 9, for His Glory
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    Faith

    God didnt randomly chose people to die in and for their sins, He purposed it before the world began. He created some people as what scripture calls vessels of wrath and He fits them for destruction Rom 9:20-23 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say...
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    Faith

    Im just telling you how it is, most people believe everyone has faith, but its only given to Gods elect at regeneration, its specifically the Faith of Gods elect Titus 1:1-2 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of...
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    Faith

    albion A lot of people think faith in salvation is a natural ability, very few I read believe that its a fruit of the Spirit, in the new creature.
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    Faith

    Faith is Spiritual ! Faith is Spiritual , and its living [as in a lively hope 1 Pet 1:3] for it is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen ! This definition in and of itself confirms that the Natural Man cannot have Faith, because as so, we walk by sight 2 Cor 5:7...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Yes those who are given Faith to believe in Jesus, had been Justified by His Blood. People who Faith is never given to , its because Christ didnt die for them and Justify them. Just like Jesus said to the unbelieving jews Jn 10:26 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    A lie is a lie whether you did it on purpose or not. You should have the decorum to read what a person actually post and then comment on that. Now Faith is essential in Salvation because its the fruit, by product of Justification. People who Christ died for are Justified by His Death, then...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Yes Faith is the fruit, by product of having been Justified by Christs death. If one never comes to faith, it means Christ didnt die for that person.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Now you lying on me. Faith is essential because its an by product of Christ death justifying one. If one doesnt come to Faith, Christ didnt die for them and Justify them. Dont resort to lying !
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith is essential as a by product of Justification by Christ, it follows Justification, thats why its promised The Just shall live by Faith. Faith identifies the ones Christ died for and Justified, so the moral of the story is, if one never is given Faith in Christ, it means He didnt die for them.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    albion More error, scripture says nothing about Christ making something possible, Christ Justified them He died for Isa 53:10-11 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Faith looks to Christ as having already Justified them He died for. Otherwise you have no faith but are in unbelief ! So again, this is simply about those who Christ died for, are Justified. If you dont believe that, you have no Faith in Christ !
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