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  1. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    There is very little that's entirely original in the history of religion, which is why skeptics often claim that Christianity is Paganism warmed-over. Or some people say it's just advanced Judaism. That's not correct, but they had holidays, and we have holidays. They celebrated with special...
  2. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Sure, but that has nothing to do with Christian baptism which is what the Bible also teaches us. John's Baptism was only symbolic of the Jewish recipient's commitment. Christian Baptism is more than that by far, including the imparting of the Holy Spirit. Just as I explained above. Yes indeed.
  3. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Yes, he did. You were reminded of his exchange with Nicodemus a little bit earlier. Yes, Christian baptism conveys the Holy Spirit along with everything else that is involved. That is one reason not to think the sacrament to be just a gesture, as many people do. And it suggests why it was...
  4. Albion

    Baptism in the holy ghost

    I quite obviously HAVE considered your beliefs, regardless of how unorthodox they are. That I have considered them does not mean that I must accept them as true, however, especially when they are diametrically opposed to the testimony of Scripture. And my only interest is the longshot hope...
  5. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    What I believe is what the word of God testifies to. And in this case it rebuts two of the leading claims you have been advancing. For one, the Bible clearly teaches that baptism is an act done with the application of water to the candidate. And for another, this it is not something we just...
  6. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Wait a minute. There is nothing there about those unnamed men refusing the sacrament of baptism. What's more, if you read a little bit further in that same passage, we find this-- " Then Peter said, 47 “Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received...
  7. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    No, I wouldn't do that! 😄 Name a few Gentiles for us who thought they'd been baptized in some way but never agreed to receive the sacrament of Baptism as Jesus taught all of us to do...and yet who are known to be sincere Christians?
  8. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Well, yes, belief in the Bible as authoritative (because it's the revealed word of God) has been a part of the Christian religion for two millennia now, so you could call it something that's traditionally been a part of the religion. God told you to be baptized and you refuse. Does that make...
  9. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    As I recall from the Bible, Christ didn't baptize anyone himself although he instructed others to do it in his name. And every example of a Christian baptism given in the New Testament involves a missionary of some sort doing the baptism of converts. All of this you reject out of hand even...
  10. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Incidentally, what Christian church or denomination are you a member of, and what does it say about your theory concerning you being baptized by Jesus when you met up with him in person? Or is it that you boycott them all because none of them believes in your fantasy about being baptized in...
  11. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Sooooo, you're suggesting that because water touches you at certain moments during the day which are, however, totally unrelated to anything religious...that this fulfills the Biblical requirement for water in the sacrament of baptism which you've been ridiculing?
  12. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    And yet you denounce the use of water in baptism and claim that your alleged waterLESS "baptism" is the only real baptism! You've now passed from mistaken to incoherent.
  13. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Neither of those claims is correct 1. God can do just about anything, so for you to say that someone here doesn't believe it is what's truly amazing. But because God can do anything, it doesn't mean that he DOES do just about anything the mind of man can dream up! 2. No one has said the first...
  14. Albion

    Baptism in the holy ghost

    Face it, NO ONE else who's active on this site and who calls himself a Christian is here to lampoon Christianity. That's safe to say, even if we consider the range of beliefs that get expressed here, reflecting the differences between Protestants and Catholics, Fundamentalists and...
  15. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    No one who really received the gift of the Holy Ghost would follow that up by 1) bragging about it and, simultaneously, 2) ridiculing Christ's teachings. No. Nor can we find anyone in the Bible who fits that pattern.
  16. Albion

    Baptism in the holy ghost

    Now you need also to become one of his own by baptism. That's the testimony of the Bible and we here heartily recommend the Bible (and church membership) to you. There is no convincing case that can be made for any person who believes in Christ to also deliberately refuse to follow his...
  17. Albion

    Baptism in the holy ghost

    You can believe with all your heart that George Washington came to you in your bedroom and told you that he was making you into a turtle, but baptism with water in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is still the initiation rite of Christ's church that Jesus himself described...
  18. Albion

    Baptism in the holy ghost

    Then it may be good that you came to us. The "Baptism of the Holy Spirit" does not refer to sacramental Baptism. It is a different matter, just as there are several other events that are described in Scripture by use of the word "baptism" or "baptized." All of them are being compared with...
  19. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    Well, God's word says to use water. And Christ specifically instructed his Apostles to baptize converts. Nothing there about some dream taking the place of the ceremony for anyone! That's irrelevant since we're not discussing John's baptism and God's word draws a clear distinction between it...
  20. Albion

    Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

    That's very true...AND it cannot be denied, so long as Scripture is our guide.
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